You Don’t See in 4K

You Don’t See in 4K


The next big thing when it comes to home entertainment
is 4K TVs. And they’re stupid. Now if you didn’t figure this out from my
self-driving cars video, I’m just taking a holy grail of reddit and deconstructing
it in order to talk about vision – and maybe flirt a little bit with color finally. 4K TVs will happen eventually, but they’re
kind of wasted on most people. So let’s get started. Now, this video is currently being filmed
in 1080p at 30 frames a second – actually 29.97 frames per second but… 30, okay? And this is pretty much the current standard
format for most media, including Youtube. So let’s step back in time a bit and see
how we got here. This is 480i. But this is clearly too small so let’s uh… There we go. If you’re older than 20, you should recognize
this. This is what home television was for most
of its history. Now, there were lower resolutions, but we
have to start somewhere okay? The resolution is 640 by 480, which is where
the 480 in 480i comes from, the vertical resolution… this becomes important later. But let’s talk about the I, this stands
for interlaced. There is a difference between the field rate
and the frame rate. The field rate or refresh rate is 60 Hz, while
the actual frame rate is still 30. So you’re getting half a frame, interlaced,
each time. It may not be obvious with this video, but
you’ve likely seen something like this in lower quality videos… this is called combing
and now you know why. This is also why old CRT monitors and TVs
would flicker or have that rolling bar when you filmed them, because the camera frame
rate and the screen frame rate didn’t match up. And this is the format which VHS tapes were
in. Home video and VHS tapes weren’t really
a thing until Top Gun in 1987. That was the “must have” VHS tape and
the one that basically started the whole home theater industry… that’s just a funny
side note re- actually, you know why? VHS tapes used to cost upwards of a hundred
dollars, but Top Gun brought the price way down by having a Diet Pepsi ad in the beginning… You remember the ad. Anyway, VHS was a horrible format. It was just a magnetic tape. Not only did it degrade over time, but it
also degraded with each viewing. So the hundredth time you watched it, it would
be noticeably worse than the first time. So it needed to be replaced. This is 480p, the format of DVDs, you probably
didn’t notice much of a difference though. DVDs are to VHS tapes what CDs were to Audio
cassettes. The only difference is that the storage medium
was far more durable and resistant to degradation and the p. That stands for progressive, which unlike
interlaced, means you’re getting a full frame every single time without and combing. Now, a common saying among the non-techno
elite is that porn decides what the next video format will be. And that’s only been true once, during the
VHS and Betamax war of the 80s. But ever since then, it’s been video games. Most peoples’ first DVD player was the Playstation
2… and the must-have DVD was the Matrix, which came out in 1999. Every single person in high school right now
was born after the Matrix came out. Feel old yet? So the transition from VHS to DVD was fairly
quick because it was necessary and film studios finally stopped releasing VHS tapes in 2006. That really feels like it should have been
longer ago. Anyway, by 2006, people were starting to transition
to… High Definition (HD). You’ve probably noticed that we’re in
widescreen now. This ratio is known as 16 by 9, as opposed
to 4 by 3 which is known as fullscreen. Remember when old movies would say “This
film has been modified from its original version. It has been formatted to fit this screen?” What they’re saying is that they cut the
sides off to make it 4 by 3. So widescreen is the actual movie, not – as
I stupidly thought when I was a kid – the movie with black bars on the top and bottom. So HD not only made the resolution better
by making it 1280 by 720, which is one and a half times the size of 480, but also standardized
widescreen… which is far more accurate to what you actually see since you have two horizontally
placed eyes, making your horizontal viewing angle almost double your vertical. 720p is kind of forgotten middle child because
it came out at the same time as 1080i, and very shortly after, 1080
p… also known as Full High Definition There, that’s more like what you’re used to I
hope. It’s 1.5 times the size of 720p, so 2 and
a quarter the size of of 480p, at 1920 by 1080, and still 30 frames a second. Much like in the 80s, from 2006 to 2008 was
the Bluray vs. HD-DVD war, spearheaded by the video game consoles, the Playstation 3
and the Xbox 360. They were both the pretty much the same format,
1080p, with slightly different compression. So they were only competing to see who could
get the most sales, which Bluray won partially because the Playstation 3 came with a bluray
player built-in, unlike the 360’s HD-DVD which you had to buy… separately… that
was so dumb. There were no “must-haves” or memorable
“firsts” when it came to Bluray like with the previous formats, but the first bluray
movies came out in June 2006. 50 First Dates, for f… So here we are, in the current mainstream
format. Why did I just talk you through the history
and evolution of video formats? Because we’re already talking about upgrading
to the next formats, yet again spearheaded by the gaming consoles, the PS4 and Xbox One. Before we get into the resolution changes,
let’s talk about framerate. As I said, this video is being filmed and
shown to you in 30 frames per second or fps. But there’s been a recent shift to 60 frames
per second. Yeah, I know, we round up, I don’t know
why that is. Now, framerate is a sacred cow in the gaming
community and on reddit, and they will defend their framerate more angrily than the second
amendment people, so I have to tread lightly. Let me start this off by saying that the average
person watching my video, whether you’re a subscriber or you found this on reddit,
is not the average consumer. You’re probably an early-adopter… you
are the techno elite. Not the average consumer. Remember when you thought 3D TV, Google Glass,
and VR were going to be the next big thing? Pepperidge Farm remembers… Now… the human eye doesn’t see in frames
– you see pretty much continuously – But. Beyond a certain speed, things can move too
fast for you to notice. Now depending on the source, at that seems
to be about 45 to 72 frames per second. Let’s go with 72. That means, just sitting there on your couch
eating doritos, if something appears on screen for 1/72nd of a second, odds are you’ll
miss it. Unless you know where to look and you’re
waiting for it. That’s at rest though. Your perceived framerate changes based on
your arousal level. If you just went for a run, or are being chased
by a dinosaur, or more likely, you’re hopped up on caffeine, you can see up to about 120
frames per second. And if you’re a super human, like a fighter
pilot, or you’re on cocaine or something, you might be able to see up to 240, but nobody
has been able to do it reliably beyond that. If you still think you can, you belong in
a lab because you’re some sort of mutant. So again, you don’t really see in frames
per second, but if something appears and disappears above a certain frame rate, you probably won’t
notice. 30 frames a second was established as the
standard decades ago, and I’ll get to why in a moment. But 60 frames seems to be where economic use
of energy and human perception meet. PC Gaming has been at or above 60 frames a
second for decades, and most computer screens are 60 Hz, so they top out at 60 frames a
second. If you brag about your 150 fps on your 60
Hz screen well… I won’t ruin the illusion for you I guess. For a while after HD came out, they started
pushing different framerates. When we’re talking about screens, they call
them hertz, but hertz is framerate. First it was 60, then 120, and then 240…
and then they stopped because the average consumer was complaining. Why would that be if we don’t really see
in frames per second? Because of the Soap Opera Effect. The Soap Opera Effect is when things are too
crisp and too fluid for real life, giving it an eerie look and causing motion sickness. Move your hand in front of your face. There was a significant blur, wasn’t there? This isn’t set to film in 60fps so let me…
there we go. So the soap opera effect makes things look
like they’re moving in slow motion, but at regular speed. I know, it’s weird which is why it gives
people motion sickness. The Soap Opera Effect doesn’t affect video
games, because a) it’s not real life so nothing really looks strange, and b) they
program in motion blur. So they’ve kind of stopped with the 240
and are only pushing 120 and 60, 60 being the likely new standard. However, framerate isn’t uniform across
your entire field of vision, which I’ll get to in a moment. The next big format shift is to 4K or Ultra
HD, which is a stupid name by the way – it’s just something they came up with in a marketing
meeting to make it sound more epic. Remember the naming conventions from before? 480, 720, 1080, there’s a nice pattern going
there. But 4K is four times the size of 1080p, so
you would think it would be called 4X. But it’s only twice the width and height,
so if we go by the same naming convention, it’s 2160p. So where does 4K come from? The horizontal measurement, 3840, rounded
up… to 4k. If we go by that naming convention, regular
1080p is actually 2K. I told you it’s dumb. Anyway, HD was a huge jump from regular D.
Most people can easily tell the difference. But HD to 4K? Most people can’t. Again, you are not the average consumer. And remember, you’re usually sitting about
10 feet away from your TV, or at least you should be. Actually, the myth that if you sit too close
to the TV, you’ll damage your eyes, is kinda true, but not for the reasons you were told
as a kid. It has nothing to do with the flickering or
the pixels or anything. It has to do with the fact that you’re not
changing your depth perception or focal length any. While you’re watching TV or playing a game,
your brain is perceiving distance, but everything, whether it’s the guy in the background or
your own character, are the same distance away. So your eyes never really have to adjust and
they get strained and fatigued. You won’t really damage your eyes, but they
will hurt. This would happen whether you’re watching
TV or you go outside and stare at the same tree for three hours straight. Anyway, 4K is 3840 by 2160, which means there
are 8 million 294 thousand 400 pixels, or just 8.3 megapixels for short. For a 60 inch TV, that means an individual
pixel is a third of a millimeter wide. Put a dot on a piece of paper only a third
of a millimeter wide and then put it ten feet away. Okay you probably still see it because it’s
a black dot on a white piece of paper but… okay? You know what I’m getting at. But you know what? There’s been a single black pixel right
here for the least few seconds. Go back and watch it again, you probably didn’t
notice. And this is 1080p, do you really think you
would have seen it if it was a quarter the size? Now get this, there are 8.3 million pixels
on that TV…. And there are only 6 million cones in your
eye… Yeah. But that isn’t even the whole story because
each pixel is actually three pixels in one, red, green, and blue… I hope you know that those are the primary
colors of light. But we only think that because we’re human. If you were to ask an alien what the three
primary colors are, they might say “Three? Silly Human, there are fifteen!” Though that’s pretty unlikely because- wait,
this isn’t the color episode stop! Anyway, the cones in your eye are ONLY red,
green, OR blue. And while the ratio isn’t exactly a third,
if we matched them all up to make a pixel, that means there are only 2 million “pixels”
in your eye. Before you say anything, rods don’t matter,
if cones are the pixels of your eye, rods are the backlight – you can’t see with
only rods but… stop trying to sidetrack me! Anyway, cones aren’t evenly spread across
your retina. Cones are concentrated in an area called the
fovea, which is only a third of a millimeter wide in the center of your retina. So while you’re looking at this screen and
think you see this… you actually see this. Now you have to take into account the fact
that we’re squishing about 210 degrees of your visual field down to maybe 15. But I’m actually still being generous. Of your visual field, your focal area is only
about 1 degree wide. Hold out your hand and look at one fingernail
– the other fingernails aren’t in focus. So as you can – hey! My eyes are up here! Actually, sidenote, if you’re talking to
someone you have a crush on, watch their mouth while they’re talking, for some reason,
they’ll pick up on that and start to like you more. Just a little tip on how to get the ladies
from Knowing Better *The more you know* But since most of your cones are concentrated
in the fovea, that also means that as you get out to the periphery, there’s less color
perception. The fovea is also where you get the highest
framerate, by the way, as I mentioned earlier. It’s the most important part of your vision,
and it’s the only thing that’s really tested when we figure out if you have 20/20
vision. Another sidenote, there’s no such thing
as “perfect vision” What 20/20 means is that at 20 feet away, you can read what most
other people can read at 20 feet away. If you have 20/100 vision, that means while
you’re reading it from 20 feet away, the average person can see it from 100 feet away. You have bad vision. But it’s okay because we all kinda do. Because while we do have some of the best
general purpose vision in the animal kingdom, our eyes are really poorly designed. All of your cones and rods are on your retina
in the back of your eye, and all those cells need blood… guess where all the blood vessels
are… Yeah, in front of the retina. So at all times, you are looking through a
field of blood, which your brain usually filters out but looks something like this. But all of those blood vessels have to get
back out of your eye somehow… which they do through a hole in the retina. Which results in a blind spot. Close your left eye… actually, remind me
about this in a second. Anyway, close your left eye and focus your
right eye on the cross to the left. And move either your head or your phone closer
or further away – once you hit the sweet spot, the circle will disappear. It will be different distance depending on
what size monitor you’re on, but if you’re watching this on a computer, it’s about
3 feet. Your brain fills in that spot with whatever
is surrounding it. It’s kind of cool when you think about it. So not only do you not see this, you see this…
but you also have this going on. And of course, that’s not the end of the
story, because if you close one – oh yeah. Okay. What do you see when you close one eye? If you think it’s this, you’re wrong. When you close your… left eye, your brain
receives a “no input” signal, and turns off all information coming from that retina. So you don’t see half-black, you see this. Don’t believe me? Close your left eye. Now cover your left eye. Now open it. See? There’s a huge difference. Kinda cool that your brain just shuts off
incoming information like that. Anyway, so again, you’re seeing this. With the addition of this fun mess… which
can be bigger or smaller depending on how lucky or unlucky you are. So you really think you need a massive TV
with pixels literally the size of dust mites with all of this going on? Again, 4k will happen, mostly because they’re
just going to stop making HDTVs, but not anytime soon. There’s virtually no content for 4k right
now. Anything before last year will never be in
true 4k because it wasn’t filmed in 4k. The current generation of bluray disc, the
triple layer, holds 125 gigabytes of data. Do you know how big a 90 minute 4k video is?
477 gigabytes. So okay, it probably won’t be on physical
media anytime soon. So streaming, obviously. Yeah, well, unless you live in a big city
and not somewhere rural or like, Australia, you- better ge- used to that happening a lot. The major hurdle for 4k right now is the file
size, it’s just too large. And there are virtually no games in 4k right
now because of how much processing power that would take. As of May 2017, only 0.82% of steam players
are even able to play in 4k… and Steam players are the PC Gaming elite… so yeah. And in terms of TVs, in 2016 only 25% of all
new TVs sold were 4k. If I were a betting man – which I am – I
would say that 4k is going to take another 5 to 10 years to catch on for the mainstream. Much like cars, most people don’t buy a
new TV until their current one breaks. 8k on the other hand, will never happen…
it’s just too much for too little payoff. If we look at video formats like soap. 480p, or DVD, is regular old soap. It was fine for most people for a long time,
and many people still use it. 1080p is a big antimicrobial step up, it’s
obviously better and if people can get it, they will. 4k is like, super mega antibacterial, kills
99.99% of everything soap. And 8k is massive overkill, 99.9999 – like
who cares, okay. There’s an upper limit to what is necessary,
and 8k has 16 times the pixel density as HD… that’s too much. That’s fives times as many pixels as cones
in your eye. You’re never going to get a TV with pixels
the size of atoms, and at a certain point, it’s just not an economical use of energy,
storage, or bandwidth. If you don’t have better than 20/20 vision,
this is lost on you, and most people don’t see or care about the difference. And if you don’t believe me, they still
make DVDs, and still sell them by the millions. Last week I posted a poll on twitter – shameless
plug to follow me on there – asking people if they were to buy a movie today what format
would they prefer. Not what could they afford, not what setup
do they have, which would they prefer. And here were the results. Again, my average subscriber is not the average
consumer, so if anything, this poll is skewed in 4k’s favor. Think of all the people out there who don’t
use Reddit, Youtube, or Twitter. These are the people who still buy the Bluray/DVD
combo pack for the DVD. So now I hope you understand a little bit
more about not just TVs and video formats, but how your eyes work and how your brain
cleans up the information it gets by a lot. I was exaggerating a little bit with some
of those effects, but not by much. Seriously, start to notice some of the weird
things about your vision that your brain filters out, it’s kind of amazing. And the next time you go out shopping for
a new TV, hopefully now, you’ll know better. So what was your first memorable bluray? Do you plan on switching to 4k? Let me know down in the comments and don’t
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100 thoughts to “You Don’t See in 4K”

  1. What was your first memorable bluray? Do you plan on upgrading to 4k?
    Also… anyone know why the blood field you're constantly looking through is blue? The answer will be revealed in my color video!

    And for the worried… I was putting sunbutter in Wheatley's mouth. It's totally safe but… maybe a little annoying. 😀

  2. I'm so tired of the "you don't see in whatever". It's BS! They said the same thing about framerates over 30. You can tell the difference, especially on large monitors. It's all about pixel density.

  3. Also, in FPS, there are differences in perceived fluidity weather or not you can see the actual frames or differences.

  4. It's not about what your eyes can see, it's about how big you can make the monitor/screen. If it's 4K, you can have a computer monitor be as big as your biggest screen TV and still have it look super-crisp.

  5. the only thing i disagree with, with this video, is the general mass buys 4k tvs and the people who are big on tech avoid it cuz they know you don't see in 4k, the same sort of people who buy a smart tv but already own a streaming device, are the people who buy 4k it's the people who don't know any better, they're the same people who buy those stupid curve tvs.

  6. As far as steam, since most game play is on a smaller screen, many laptops in here, for the most part 4k is not desired this why such a small % play in 4k. On a TV with large screens its different.

  7. There is an obvious difference if you have a large TV and/or a small living room.
    4K TVs aren't stupid ; this video is.

  8. I never knew why I didn't like some of the HDTVs I'd watched in stores or at friend's houses, because the picture looked…"too real" and I had a hard time watching. The Soap Opera Effect, as you called it, nailed it perfectly. And I'm glad I didn't just on the Blu-ray bandwagon, since for me the quality really wasn't different.

  9. This didn't hold up very well. In fact, I think his predictions were wrong in 2017 when this came out.

    The whole idea that there are more pixels than cones in your eye doesn't matter at all. You can always improve. At least until there are more pixels in each square inch of a huge theater screen than there are cones in your eyes. You want to be able to focus on a tiny portion of the screen and still get perfect clarity. I don't get it because he mentions this fact in the video but ignores it later on.

  10. I think you don't understand the objective of 4k TV. The objective isn't to see the difference betwen 1080p and 4k, but to make the edges of things like constructions, hair, wires and other things more defined, of course if you take a 1080p tv with a flat image like just some colors without diagonal edges and the same image at 4k on a 4k tv, you'll not see any diference, even if both of them have a black pixel as you pointed out. But when you start to play games or watch even movies and start to see diagonal edges you will
    definitively preffer a 4k tv, even if your eye can't really see the difference betwen individual pixels. To undestand what I'm talking about, just research about AA on games, is the same thing as simulating a higher resolution to correct the "stairs" effect at the diagonal edges, even in 1080p, if you play without it, it will look shit.

  11. From someone with 15/20 vision (not bragging) my Samsung q80r looks better than real life and I know that doesn’t make any damn since but it does, the color is more vibrant and detail/definition is insane. I can watch something in 4K wether it be Netflix (stranger things) or a 4K movie on anything else I can tell an enormous difference from 1080p, 1080p is like ok I can see this clearly and clean then 4K is just wow. As far as frame rates go 60 to 120 to 144 I can tell a difference as for 240 I had a Sony tv with a 240hz refresh rate and as it did look fake at times you quickly get used to it and when your watching extremely fast scenes like a mission impossible movie it looks really good. And as for marketing don’t blame the corporate guys blame the people with lower IQ that go wow 4K that sounds impressive when they have no idea what it means.

  12. I have a 65 inch 4K HDR Tv with an Xbox one X.
    If you are gonna upgrade your films from blu Ray to 4K, I’ll let you in on a little secret, any film shot digitally in the last 5 years will look good, a little better but not drastically better. Now, Any movie shot on film from the last 20 years will see a MASSIVE upgrade from blu Ray and is well worth the investment and you will notice a massive difference.

  13. idk man i tried the thing where i closed an eye then covered it and opened it and there was no difference whatsoever

  14. Um, 4K will and has happened.  Samsung already sells tons of them and they have an 8K you can buy, right now.  I know because I am buying it along with a PS5 next December.

  15. what ever the preacher says, 4k in laptops makes no sense, but in a tv 55 inch plus, the eye catch the difference right away, try it and then…… end of story….. no need to make further fuzz about it…..

  16. Can't get enough 4k UHD, it's so incredible and I'm see about 20/200 on a good day. Also I take exception to the statement about nothing being shot in 4k in the past, the whole idea is that 35mm and 70mm is always downsized to the player, so the better the player or tv, the greater the color and clarity so a 4k tv can show much greater detail that was the original intent of the film maker, we are still unable to replicate the quality of film but we're getting better all the time. You're very talented though in your delivery and need to do more.

  17. Recently I subscribed to this channel because of its politics/religion /history-related contents. Those are really great.

    After getting this video on my recommendation, I remember watching this BS content and how dumb I thought about this guy.

  18. Hmm. Didnt have watched the video fully. scrolled to find any explanation of ppd (pixel per degree) and couldnt find any.

    But ppd is very important.

    The current idea of how well the human eye can see is 120 ppd (it actually depends on the content. there is contend where the eye was able to see 400 ppd (technical drawings black on white) while many people cant see a difference between 60 ppd and 120 ppd in videos (supposedly. I myself see that difference clearly)

    Typical ppd: Many PC gamers who dont have very expensive monitors, play their games at a ppd of around 40.
    first Gen VR goggles are at 10 ppd (Oculus said, we go 4K per eye by 2022, that would be 40ppd in the goggles. And the final VR resolution shall be 16K per eye, wich would be like 160 ppd. But at the same time the field of view will be larger) The large resolutions will be manageable by tracking the eyes and render only that tiny spot you look at in the full ppd while going down to 10ppd (the current headsets resolution) in the periphery.

    A 65 inch TV has:
    120 cm distance: 30 ppd (Full HD) or 60 ppd (4K)
    250 cm distance: 60 ppd (Full HD) or 120 ppd (4K) <———- means 250cm is the ideal distance for a 65 inch 4K TV. Shorter and its not ideal resolution. Larger distance and you waste it and wouldnt see a difference to Full HD anymore.

  19. Dunning, meet Kruger. Probably unwise to steadily reassure your audience how smart they are for tuning into you when you don't dive deep into the topic itself. You've neglected to mention any of the vocabulary surrounding aspects of the panel apart from resolution. You did not convey to the audience that there will be other factors which play into the quality of a screen. Your point is not entirely wrong, but it is a bit deceptive. Dot pitch, for example, the lines between pixels impact the quality of the overall image because they are black lines. The higher resolution your panel, the fewer black lines there are separating the color. You get a "smoothing" effect on a pixel level and a color level to reduce what is called aliasing. There are all sorts of panel types, and even in 2017, a simple search on YouTube could have revealed to you that TVs are different from gaming monitors, that IPS and OLED are revolutionary technologies which help lower resolution panels compete in color depth with higher resolution panels of worse tech. Higher resolution isn't strictly about what the human eye can perceive, it plays a role in the big "picture" result. I also find it strange that you managed to get through the entire video without mentioning retina– not sure if I should congratulate or criticize you for that, because PPI is the true stat that matters to the eye, not raw resolution.

    Sorry dude, I know it's from 2017, but this is not serving your channel well and undermines the entire premise of it. You gotta research harder if you call yourself "Knowing Better" and at least be more humble in the fact that you don't know it all either. None of us do, and technology is constantly changing and being developed. Conviction is a death sentence in this field. Circular reasoning like "people still prefer DVD" (neglecting the poll sample size, do you know what a p value is?) is not sufficient to argue against oncoming formats/technologies.

  20. The original plan was that the format we currently call 4k UHD was going to be named as 2160P Super HD, with Ultra HD at 4320P.

    Lots of people thought 'Super' High Definition was a dumb name, and so the next step up got called Ultra instead.
    (Also there were some computer monitor formats a little above HD that were using SHD as their naming convention)

    To try and trick people into thinking that the SHD format was the initially promised version of UHD, the 4k was used to make it sound like a simplification of of the 4320P.
    Aficionados spotted this, but the marketing ploy stuck.

    8k (original UHD) is likely to happen in the long run for cameras and cinema projectors.
    This is simply due to the fact that when you get up close to a very large screen (and screens are getting larger all the time), or a 'video wall', you get pixellation even on 2160P.
    Once technology allows for that pixellation to be removed/reduced at a modest cost, that cost will be worthwhile paying for those using very large viewing areas.

  21. I love my 240 hz TV.
    Do you plan on upgrading to 4k? Uh, if you plan on buying a new TV then you have no choice, it's all they're making because it's no more expensive than 1080 for them to manufacture.

  22. I honestly can’t tell a difference between DVD and Blu-Ray. I just have a Blu-Ray player because it’ll play anything.

  23. Gurl really?, 1080 looks nothing compared to 4k.. the level of detail is amazing, in gaming and streaming.. 🤣🤣

  24. 4K only became a thing because people started wanting TVs bigger than 65". So you need more than 1080p or else it looks terrible. 4k on an 80+ " TV doesn't really look any better than 1080p on a 55" TV.

  25. If we ask an eagle, how many colours would he say there are? I bet it is at least four as they can see in the ultraviolet spectrum with their forth cone. That would be cool.

  26. They'll find a way to make my media obsolete without the 4k. It will be like that line from Men In Black where Tommy Lee Jones says he'll have to buy the White Album again.

  27. 4k video games make no sense. While 4k movies do make more sense, and yes, there is a bit of a difference between the two, it's not a whole lot. Overall, if you have the money to pay for it, and want the best picture, then by all means buy it. But if you want something cheaper yet better than a tube TV, by all means, stick to the standard HD flatscreen.

  28. I hate to say this guys but did you watch the video? He said MULTIPLE times that this ONLY applies to the GENERAL population. NOT to his AVERAGE audience. See what I did there, maybe capitalizing the important words will make you understand, but probably not since you can't even hear or read subtitles.

  29. "8k will never happen"
    Walks into a BestBuy today, and sees a Samsung Q950R on display. Also I've had a 4k tv since 2015. Idk why you decided to talk about this in 2017.

  30. I have been delving into this with VR. My optometrist… we can see in 1080p per eye… so 2k. But when that is extended into a screen that does not cover you entire eye. So this means that if you sit so close that all you see is the screen. The no framerate this is not true. You can see above 1000 fps. And most people can tell the difference between 60, 120, 144, 240 Hz. Like I said I work in VR development A LOT. 90 frames is the target for motion purposes not because we see in that framerate. But the new rift S is 80 and I have comfortably played VR at 60. But it must be constant. And do not let anyone fool you by telling you you can’t tell the difference… YOU can.

  31. entertaining and informative if not a little wearing. The message I think is that Ultra HD is a marketing con is not worth buying. HD at 1080 is enough. Fair play.

  32. I told my girlfriend that one day video quality will surpass “real life quality” and we’ll be paying for nothing.

  33. mint chocolate milanos – the best… they used to make a mint chocolate brussels which were also great… but i cannot seem to find those anymore

  34. 4k TVs are super cheap already. Not sure why he thought it would take 10 years for it to catch on. 5 years is more accurate. When it comes to electronics. They will always push the envelope to something better. Which makes the older tech drop in price. So more people can buy.

  35. I remember watching top gun with my dad’s flight helmet on when I was …. 1987 so 7. Tricked me into becoming an AE in the Navy

  36. looks like the 10 year prediction is only 2 years… 4k TV's are very main stream. Also 8k TV's are a thing. They're just so damn expensive and all you can do it watch stuff filmed and/or shot in 8k. ;( I do see a difference between 1080p and 4k. There's a BIG difference visually.

  37. Not going to watch it but the title reminds me of the people that say " we only see in 25fps so it makes no difference with higher refresh / frame rates in games". Well play a game at 30 fps on an old monitor and play a game at 244fps with a 244hz refresh rate monitor. It's magic I guess because it looks 100 times better

  38. When I play video games on a 20-30 inch monitor I can tell the difference between 1080p and 4k and 4k is a whole lot better, but it burns a hole in your life savings.

  39. I've actually never had a Blu-Ray. I have so little interest in movies, I don't consider it worth the cost, knowing how little I would actually use it.

  40. vhs is 240i, buddy. You might be mistaking super vhs, around 400i, but vhs has never matched dvd resolution. (And for those pedants out there, I am aware of dvhs which was digital,1080i on magnetic vhs tape). LaserDisc was around 420i. DVD can do 480i and 480p. The difference between vhs and dvd, especially on a progressive DVD player, is staggering.

  41. Nearly 2 years later 8K TVs are now starting to enter the market and I'm playing RDR2 in 4K on my Xbox one X on my 4K HDR LG monitor.

  42. The bit of the "soap opera effect" and 60 fps looking weird and making you motion sick is bullshit. Its actually the opposite, it looks more realistic and we are so used to low frame rates on TV that it looks weird. In VR and video games is so important to maintain a high frame rate above 60 fps to avoid motion sickness and increase immersion because the human brain doesn't sees in fps but it benefits from high frame rates as it looks more realistic specially when it has to coordinate and match haptic input and movement to visual feedback. Real life motion blur is created in the brain and eye, even if there is no motion blur on a high frame rate screen, you see some motion blur even though you don't realize it unless you pay attention.

  43. I've had 4k @ 240hz. I love it.
    In fact my older tv look odd when I watch them now. Like watching VHF after watching a Blu Ray.

  44. @8:04 – @8:10 lol brilliant man. youre so low key about the funniest aspects of your content which I dig

  45. But what if Aliens visit, and we wanna show them our games but they can see at 120FPS…..8k would be useful then right?

  46. I don't need 4k, would be a waste of money for my needs. My TV is to far away and i don't watch movies or play games that even run 4k.

  47. Seriously, take this down. It is one of the dumbest things on YouTube. Pixel count does matter when the screen size increases. The only thing you see is the apparent clarity, saying that our eyes don't see in 4K is so dumb, I can't even… The two things are not the same. Your phone does not have or need a high pixel count because the picture size is small, so the picture seems clear, but if it were blown up to 55 inches you would see the pixels. That's the reason for higher pixel count in larger screens, so you won't see the pixels and the apparent clarity is satisfactory.

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