Which CPU cooling method is better, air or liquid? | Ask a PC expert

Which CPU cooling method is better, air or liquid? | Ask a PC expert


a PC world fans Adam here with Gordon
and our weekly podcast the full nerd we get a lot of questions from PC builders
one of them specifically that we get over and over and over again is hey I’m
buying a new CPU should I go air to cool it or should I go to water to cool it
I know lately there’s been a big trend in going air a lot of people concerned
about putting water in their PC why would somebody go one over the other and
what’s the strengths and weaknesses of both well first we’re talking
aftermarket we’re not talking about your stock cool true true yes air is big
pluses if you were moving parts it’s can be had fairly low cost hyper 212
Coolermaster it’s an awesome cooler very low cost my main concerns which I’ve
never been really super fan of sometimes is once you put this cooler into your
system there’s just not a lot of room in there to get to the RAM to cure the
plugs so that’s all been my pain pain point in in air coolers they generally
again they can be more reliable they can also be quieter a lot of people don’t
realize that this is I’ve been seeing this machines far back as the mid-2000s
where you get a machine great big super machine and it would have a big honkin
cooler on it it would actually be cooler than a liquid cooler here because some
liquid loops that’s a surprise a lot of people but you know custom loops you’ve
got pumps you’ve got lots of fans there’s a lot of things going on in
there so air frankly has been Cooling’s CPUs far longer than liquid on on
personal computers so there’s nothing wrong with it great way to go biggest
problem there pain to deal with when you want to get in there so know that if
you’re into air good that’s all good stuff now if you’re into liquid CLC
closed-loop cooler I tend to prefer those in my own builds because it’s
easier to get to the RAM it’s easy to move stuff around it’s just
it’s it’s just easy you don’t you don’t cut your hand on the cooler because you
never the way to do it with is to is sometimes the only way you get to the
RAM is to pull the heat sack right and that is a pain yeah and sometimes what
you need to do then is is that you cheap out so you don’t I’m not gonna pull it
on your just gonna jam my hands in and then you just cut your hands up all on
those those fins it’s a pain that’s why I like CLC’s the other big advantage of
CLC’s is they look cooler they just look cool I mean frankly that’s the reason
why most people ran CLC’s because it’s just cool hey I’ve got a liquid-cooled
PC of course custom loop people who would like to look down their nose at
you COCs have gotten way more advanced
you’ve got the ones with the old ads on them you’ve got all these lights and all
kinds of craziness they just look cool they’re just they’re just kind of like
coolness but Gordon I’ve heard a lot of people say that they’re worried about
water yeah getting in their systems the chances of something happening that
could hurt your your PC or higher with the CLC than air I should should people
really put stock into that have you seen that many problems so I agree that
statistically there’s a greater chance of damaging something with a liquid
cooler CLC because there is water in that system it could leak out and
corrode something but I will say my experiences I’ve never seen one leak and
it doesn’t mean it can’t happen it’s not like I’m saying these things don’t
happen but what I’m saying is if CLC’s posed a huge if the failure rates were
anywhere near the way people try to make them out to be which is it feels like
everything oh my god your seals gonna fail like come on if it’s like point o
1% or 0.1% that is a that is a very small group right I’ve never seen it
happen and if it were even say 20% which would be catastrophic 20% of CLC is
failing which is what you’re getting oppression from some people of they
wouldn’t sell them anymore because if they sold them because I’ll honestly a
lot of these people will make the CLC is their warranties will cover damage
they’ll say oh really or smoke your CPU we smoked your
motherboard if you’re making the seal season you’re blowing up people’s
hardware you’re not gonna sell them anymore that’s generally not a good
business practice you put yourself out of business right yeah and if you’re
gonna say well it’s your problem our problem with that people know about that
really fast so I think a lot of the faults with cocs are in my opinion
likely due to installation issues we don’t know how hard people are torquing
on these things remember it’s a rubber hose going to a plastic fitting going
into you know plastic people sometimes try to get those hoses to make them look
pretty and they’ve just put a little too much pressure on them user error it can
happen I don’t know if that’s in every case but
it definitely could contribute to it and you’re putting a lot of stress in that
joint it could also be just manufacturing issue but generally I’m
gonna say CLC’s are safe yeah sure statistically it is higher than an air
cooler no doubt about that but I would argue not enough to really matter for
most people they do negatives on CLC’s they cost more right they are a pain to
set up as well because now you’ve got to install all these fans on there and then
put it put it into place on your system but you know positives easy to get in
that system looks cooler so air great super reliable can be had really cheap
you can scale up to actually being very high-end in performance with those great
big giant not Chua’s great parts but they’re pain to deal with after they’ve
been installed CEO sees you know just easier access to all that and can look
cooler so when I was first building pcs and I was faced with this question and
maybe some others had this as well it was always my understanding that you
could actually overclock your system better on a CLC is that true does that
changed I think it’s a generalization that you can’t rely too much on because
if you’re looking at a ninety five dollar Noctua
versus a $35 CLC and there are thirty five and forty dollar CLC’s now that not
propaganda it’s gonna smoke that that’s CLC right as you get to a really big
gigantic CLC some of them have options for custom custom cooling as well I
think generally the edge will go to the COC it’s not probably enough to make a
difference for most people hmm I think yeah if you’re looking at your normal
mainstream 100 watt CPU it’s it’s not come on this is not I’m not gonna change
your world by going to either one of those okay from from a very high-end air
cooler to a very high-end CLC I don’t think it’s gonna change your world okay
well I want to hear what you have to say why did you pick air versus water and
why is Gordon wrong on his picks oh yes please tell me
all right and if you have questions you can email them into the full nerd at PC
world comm if we don’t answer it on the show
maybe we’ll answer it in a segment like this so thanks for taking the time to
answer these questions Gordon I appreciate it see you later

100 thoughts to “Which CPU cooling method is better, air or liquid? | Ask a PC expert”

  1. Gordon's concerns do not really apply to normal people. Once you set up your motherboard you probably won't look at it again at least for a few years or until you replace it. Upgrading ram is something you do at most one time and even a lot of the air coolers can have the fan removed and it gives you access without taking it off completely.

    CLCs have a 5year lifespan which is enough of a reason to avoid using them unless you don't care at all about your money and get a completely new pc every few years.

  2. Noctua 15S. No pump noise. And why risk water damage to your precious parts when you can get just as high quality cooling and for cheaper.

  3. Gordon's opinions are generally correct, but I'm still double downing and going custom loop for hundreds of dollars more. Not because I think it'll bring me much more performance on my RYZEN parts, but because I'm an old school enthusiast and it's fun and looks cool.

  4. Replaced my Corsair CLC with a Phantek's air cooler for one of the reasons Gordon mentioned–I wanted more room in my crowded ITX case. And like many of us, I've been inside my case more than once to install RGB RAM, custom PSU cables, custom color coordinated SATA cables, etc. It's been a lot easier without the CLC radiator and pump in the way. The Phanteks cooler is slim and good looking and provides full access to the RAM.

  5. Depend on the situation if u are the type that keep the pc running at all times because sometimes shit likes heavy vibration because of environmental changes can occur or wife vacuum your gaming room when u are a way for a long time. If u rarely tinker with your motherboard then air cooler is better .

  6. Sticking with the stock AMD cooler because it blows down over the MB potentially cooling the VRMs better? And it's cheaper.

  7. I made a custom loop for my pc around 2012. I put a block on my I7 3770k amd two matrix 7970's. Originally I decided to go with watercoling because my two 7970's were 3 slot cards each and I needed to reduce them to 2 slots so I could have the right spacing for the two 7970's, sound card and my nic. I was able to get all my cards in and found that while the cpu water block did its job it really wasn't any better then a closed loop. Still I was able to oc my 3770k to 4.9 ghz stable with acceptable temps. The big difference was the two 7970's. Even with the big 3 slot air cooler I was getting overheating issues on air. My case is a cooler master haf932 so the air flow is really good. Once the top 7070's were put in the loop they stayed cool and I was able to get them running at 1250mhz . I just replaced my two 7970's with a single air cooled rtx2070. I don't think I would go through the money and work to watercool again. I just dont think its worth it with today's components.

  8. So a few things from a user of both CLC's and big HSF's. Most large HSF's you just need to unclip one of the fans to access most if not all the RAM slots. You guys really should do a comparison between the big coolers NH-15, DRP4, R1, TC14PE and see how easy or hard it is to get to everything and how well they cool.

    Keep in mind most users are building a system and maybe upgrading the GPU after a few years. If you are on a tight budget and only picking up 2 sticks of RAM and will add more later you are most likely in the 212 Evo range and that has no issue with RAM clearance. For you guys a CLC makes perfect sense as you need to get into the system a lot.

    As to CLC's I think the fear of leaking is fairly minor but there are a number of other issues. Main issue with all of the Asetek units is pump failure which I had happen on my Corsair after 2.5 years. You can also have issues that I think coolermaster had recently with corrosion.

    Large HSF's tend to be cheaper, offer similar performance to a 240 rad while having better reliability and longevity.

  9. Customs loops: beautiful and cool, though really expensive and the most hassle and risk.

    AIO: prettty reliable, leakage not really an issue, pump failure does happens I believe (take that with a bit of salt)
    Just a bit more noisy and you have to spend more to get the same performance as a premium air cooler.
    Looks better and easy access.

    Air Cooler: most reliable, low noise though can have clearence issues and most of them look less cool.
    Even if fan stops spinning, your CPU will throttle, but won 't die.
    You can overclock on a premium air cooler, it is a fairy tale that you need an AIO.
    Just search for air cooling vs water cooling.

    Personal favourite is an air cooler. Though the huge ones like the NH-D15, Dark Rock Pro 4 have the best results, my go to air cooler is the Noctua NH-U14S. Almost just as good as the huge ones, but with more clearence, cheaper and more space for airflow
    around it. It could use a little offset for more RAM clearence though.

  10. I love water cooling, so I built an open loop with cooling system with 9 fans and two 360mm radiators for cooling my overclocked Ryzen 7 3700X and temps stay in the low 30's C.

  11. Water, if you can't go custom go AIO. I used to be a Tower Cooler fan but the weight, size and aesthetics made me change my mind the day i used an AIO, it's so so much better.

  12. I've got a Hyper TX3 EVO cooling an i7-7700. I'm aware it's slightly overkill, but the fact is my CPU never hits high temps and is overperforming according to all tests I've ran, so I think I made the right decision. My two cents on the air vs liquid debate: less maintenance is better.

  13. my brother and I got the ryzen 5 3600 paired with a hyper 212 and I got the arctic freezer 34 esport duo and both priced around $35, but the freezer 34 duo is 3%(single fan) to 6%(dual fan) beter and lower noise.

  14. I don't know how to maintain a Water cool custom Loop so.. Im using Noctua NH-15s. Work just fine for me

    Be Quiet! Dark Rock 4 is another recommendation =)

  15. i have both air and water. it varies on the case and situation. on the current workstation of many, im running air. its just better for this situation. i mostly just get Noctua. running a NH14 with PPC industrial fans with a fan controller and a smart fan curve to accelerate based on cpu temps. so fan noise is not an issue and if it gets to hot it cools it down fast. the fans were needed for the AIO i had due to the previous case having filters that required the fans to have alot more static pressure in order to get cooler.

  16. Gordon, you forgot to mention one thing. If you use an air cooler you have the advantage of it blowing air over and directly cooling your RAM, CPU chokes, VRM's, MOSFET's, etc on the motherboard. You don't get that with a CLC or custom loop as the actual cooling is done elsewhere.

  17. That most people fail to mention is the limited lifespan of an AIO, of about 5 years. Doesn't sound too bad, but it's performance will start to decrease after just a couple of years. An air cooler will last almost forever, needing maybe a fan swap if they happen to die on you. My H115i got 12 degrees hotter about about 2 to 2.5 years. Replaced it with an air cooler and temps dropped back down. Not to mention my air cooler was much quieter than the AIO.

    AIOs are great especially for some use cases. Cooling my 9900K in an ITX case required an AIO to keep Max performance. Otherwise, if my case can fit it, an high end air cooler is my first option.

    And I say this as someone with 3 PC with water cooling (2 AIOs and an open loop).

  18. Back in 2013 I went with Air Cooling and I don't regret til this day I've been able to keep using all my Air Coolers (Noctua mainly, they honored their word by sending the mounting mechanism for AM4 to Mexico free of charge), as Gordon said Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition is dirt cheap and very good I would still go for Noctua though. Noctua's newest fan NF-A12x25 paired with a NH-U12S is just a beast, silent AF and goes toe to toe against my NH-D15S and more silent. Remember, in our God forsaken lands outside of first world countries, warranties are not made the same keep that in mind when water cooling your systems.

  19. Water is grate for those problem cases with poor air flow. Yeah, I'm looking at you Phanteks Evolv Shift! (You always hurt the one you love).

  20. Building a 3950x rig next month (if they're in stock) and I just picked up a Dark Rock Pro 4 to cool the thing. I built my last machine with a Hyper 212 EVO and switch over to an H110i v2 later down the road. What struck me was that the H110i seemed louder to me than the Hyper 212 and the cooling performance didn't reflect the price difference. I'm going with the Dark Rock Pro 4 this time around so that I can have quieter machine and still achieve great cooling performance. The cost saving don't hurt either.

  21. Gordon is wrong because he keeps calling it CLC when everyone else in the world calls them AIO… (And don't tell me he is right just because CLC makes more sense than AIO – fitting in and being like everybody else is always more important than being objectively right or makeing more sense)

  22. When I first starter hearing about AIO liquid coolers, the main attactions was: Better cooling, less noise – and then ofc, the street cred of it looking cool.
    Later I realised they are less or in best cases same cooling for more money, they are often louder – And I don't have enough money to waste it on just a little street cred.

  23. my only question would be what size liquid cooler.. one, two and three fans size rads. do they use the same pump etc…

  24. I picked an air cooler (noctua nh-u14s) because it was cheap where i live, i like how it looks, cool and very quiet.

  25. OH… Tell Brad Newegg has rx580s for 149.00 after all discounts…
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  26. One thing you didn't say… I find there are much less dust that gathers over the mobo since no air flow get focused over there. Heat might also not be much worse it you out case extraction fans close by.

  27. Both options will work well, but heat still is the enemy. Heat pipes reach a point they can't do it. Water heat beyond 60c, well goodbye pump.

  28. CLC: – Cons = more points of failure, clogging, leaks, higher cost. Pros = good cooling, better short boost cooling (thermal dynamics of liquid), easier installation and removal.
    Air Coolers: – Cons = Installation/removal (for some larger ones specially), size could be a hindrance for Ram compatibility and swapping. Pros = Very reliable, only fan can fail (which won't kill the system, just throttle it) and most coolers allow for fan replacements, Okay to extreme cooling, relatively cheaper than CLCs with some really good cheap options which can never be matched by CLCs. Can look just a aesthetically pleasing (if not more) than CLCs.
    Conclusion = Get Air cooler for long term use and reliability in a system which is not to be fiddled with too often. Just install and forget for the lifetime of a PC. I have a 10 year (X58) and a 4 year (Z97) system with after-market air cooler installation with CPU OCs running at this time which have never been remounted (even though i should re-paste them). No CLCs can claim to last for 10 years, as their pumps would have failed 3 times over by now.

  29. I build it and leave it alone for the most part. Air cooled does as good if not better than liquid just look around at all the posts on youtube about Snowman CPU cooler. Thing is I follow PHD Robert Metcalfe's advice when it comes to computer hardware "Reliability, Reliability, Reliability". That was his answer when people would say that they could purchase Ethernet cards that where faster than the ones made at 3Com. All the years of selling thousands of 3Com cards into companies like Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Boeing, McDonald Douglas, Intel (before they made it themself) . . . we only had nine cards that I know of fail under the lifetime warranty. So for me air cooled, and devices like the Snowman CPU cooler "Reliability, Reliability, Reliability".

  30. on liquid you dont havea thermal buffer if pump dies
    on air your whole cooler becomes a cooling buffer for safe shutdown on fan failure. its the main reason i stay on air

  31. The RAM (Vengeance LPX) fit fine in my system. The only big problem which I had: once I put the D15 on the motherboard I could't access the motherboard screws and I had difficulty plugging the fan-cable in. Gordon might exaggerate with the "cutting your hands" but I actually did cut my hand a bit. I blame Fractal for not making the case high and wide enough.

  32. Real PC Expert here: Buy a Noctua NH-U14S. You can get to your RAM, Cables, GPU and so on and it's more reliable, cooler, cheaper, 6 year warranty on the fan but it will last 10 years and silent in comparison to a CLC-Junk. You are welcome.

  33. Corsair Hydro H100i V2 simply because it look better in my case , Have a 7700k that i have had from the releas date + few days  and no problem still works as if it is new .

  34. Water-cooling all the way. Components like gpu and cpu run much cooler. I was tired of tweaking and maintaining my custom loop, so I got an EK-MLC Phoenix for my cpu and gpu, replaced the ugly Phoenix cpu block and done.

  35. I got an AIO simply cause it looks cool, 360mm Kraken even though I don't even overclock my PCs like that…

    I guess it's all down to preference…

  36. Replaced my Noctua NH-D15 with a Deepcool Castle AIO purely because the Noctua could not fit into the Deepcool Quadstellar case I bought to get better airflow around my GPUs ( Radeon VII Linux host with VFIO/GPU passthrough of an RTX2080ti). Having the cards close together generated a lot of heat and the fins on the Noctua are so big they where almost touching the Radeon VII's backplate. The Noctua was quiet and extremely effective just too big for the case

  37. Oh, come on!
    If you are so clumsy that you really cut your self going into your Air-cooled tower – than water cooling has to be more of a disaster for you because when you are that clumsy of a person – you must break all kind os things like the pips in your water-cooled PC!
    Guys! Cutting your self on air-cooling as a "con" for Air-cooling?! You gotter do better! lol wtf!

  38. NH-D15! Why does he want to keep fiddling round with his RAM?
    I slapped in 32GB when I built my rig 2 years ago and haven't touch my cooler or my RAM since.

  39. I went full custom water. It just looks cool. but it also is quieter than my air cooler was. Also usually I have a few hours when I start up the computer where the CPU runs a lot cooler since the water is cool and it takes a fairly long for the water to become heat soaked

  40. air cooling here. no pump noise, less moving parts and cheap coolers like hyper 212 black provide my cpu with adequate cooling and doesn't block the ram on my board.

  41. CLC > Air especially if you live in a hot area because the specific heat capacity of water > air. I live in an area where it's triple digits mostly year round and I've had both. My AIO's have outperformed my air coolers time and time again.

  42. i have a dh-15 and all i have to do is take the front fan off and i can get to the ram pretty easy. then i just clip the fan back on. it does block the top m.2 slot on my board but i dont have to get into that slot ever so….

    the main thing about water cooling that i am interested in is that if you are doing a moderate power draw load, like gaming, you can get lower temps with water and then add extra 100mghz clock speed or so. not really necessary or worth it but still its nice to have.

    but thats only for moderate power loads. if its something like rendering, the water gets heated up pretty fast and you get the whole water loop "heat soaked" and its no better than air. but for low power workloads with a really good water cooler you can get higher clocks and lower temps (the higher clocks are basically because of the lower temps)

  43. I switched from a Noctua NH-D15 to an EVGA CLC 280 purely because I think it looks better. Motherboards look awesome these days and I want to be able to see mine.

  44. My current system is almost 6 years old and I went aio. Had to replace the AIO after a couple of years. I will most likely go air cooled on next build because far easier to troubleshoot. Aio fans can be fine but something wrong with flow and you'll never know until your system overheats. Fancy software does jack to warn of issues, so not very fancy.

  45. For me personally, the only thing that worries me about an AIO liquid cooler is possible pump failure. With an air cooler I never have to worry about that. I upgraded the Wraith Prism on my 2700X to a NH-U14S and couldn't be happier. I still like AIOs though. Maybe my next build will have one.

  46. Using a Noctua C14 with 2 NF-A12x25's set as push-pull in my Ncase M1. Paired with a delidded 8086k clocked at 4.9ghz on all 6 cores. Running Prime 95, my max temps are 75c when running them at 2000rpm and around 78c when running at 1000rpm. I am happy with those results. Case also has an extra NF-A12x25 and a 92mm NF-A9 for exhaust.

  47. anyone know the lifespan of a corsair h100i V2? Until it fails? I would go with air, but i like the looks, accessibility, performance.

  48. I run a downdraft cooler but I am on a locked i7 but the VRM cooling is nice and air coolers remind be of the huge chrome superchargers on muscle cars 😀

  49. Don't mind air coolers at all, cooled my first i5 2500k build. But if you add fans in a push/pull config to front of case you cool your CPU better, higher overclocks and overall cooler temps throughout the case because of all that fresh air coming in. Even helps keep GPU cooler. More expensive than air, yes but still cheaper than custom loop. Switched to AIOs and haven't looked back.

  50. im going to go full water. have a monoblock on the mobo, mount it upside down on a desk, have a frame around it to support the gpu, which will also be water cooled, then pipe that to a car radiator.

    balls to the wall or no balls at all!

  51. I like that liquid cooking can handle spikes better, so heavyish workloads that then have brief periods that nearly max the system out still won't throw you off of boost clock.

  52. I started with a Noctua NH-D14. Then moved to a 240mm Corsair H100 because I needed more cool air to the CPU. After a couple of years, I saw the CPU not being able to turbo as high no more, so I went back to the NH-D14 and immediately got high turbo frequency again. I don't know why, but I guess either som water has evaporated or bacteria in the water has made more blocking in the CPU block.

  53. Air coolers can block RAM slots, but not ALL of them. This should be made clear as you're generalising air coolers as "blocking RAM" when this is not always the case. Just as you say people generalise AIOs as "leaking all the time", then why are you generalising air coolers? I've got several air coolers they don't block the RAM slots. Coolers like the Noctua NH-D15 and Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro do block RAM slots. But slimline coolers like the Cooler Master Hyper 212, Noctua NH-U12A and Be Quiet Dark Rock Slim don't. You mentioned the Hyper 212 and then you say "air coolers block RAM", very generalised and misleading like saying AIOs leak all the time.

    Anyway, how often do people open their case to play with the RAM anyway? The last time I touched RAM was 2012. Set and forget is what most people tend to do. Unless they decide on 8GB now and realise it's not enough, so upgrade later on.

  54. I prefer Air Coolers over AIOs. They are much easier to deal with then an AIO. The only point of failure from an Air Cooler is the Fans. If they stop working. Its easy to replace those fans with new ones. For AIOs. The point of failure is the pump. If that dies. You have to replace the entire AIO With a brand new one. And it will be a costly one.

    So go with Air Cooler since replacing the Fans is much cheaper then replacing an AIO.

  55. I actually agree with the summary. I went Air because (1) it was a lot less hassle/work to install, (2) it was about 35% the cost, (3) it is very quiet. But then noise and heat dissipation were my top concerns and I do NOT like all the rgb and bling in a PC. I want a no show box off to the side so I am not distracted by it when working.

  56. I'm still using the majority of the same custom loop I first built 11 years ago and back then the Noctua range of cpu coolers probably didnt even exist. It used to cool an overclocked socket 775 Quad core then cooled an X58 overclocked 6 core Xeon and now cools an i5 9600k.
    Part of the reason I don't ditch my loop is because I don't want a heatsink weighing 1-2Kg hanging off of the cpu socket.
    And being so huge that it dominates the inside of the case.
    The Noctua DH ??? Might match an AIO or even my loop but for aesthetic purposes I think I'll stock with my loop thanks.

  57. I prefer the look of a air cooled system over any normal AIOs. Some custom loops can look amazing tho. If you test pc hardware for a living I can see why you might hate if the RAMs are blocked but how many people do change ram more then once a year even?

  58. EVO 212 air cooler works flawlessly and worry-free for me with an notoriously hot I7-8700K, even under heavy work loads, and maxed out graphics gaming. And, as has been already stated here, it helps tremendously with also cooling VRMs and MOSFETS. My motherboard temps look I am using this PC in a refrigerator all the time. If, I want more bling (e.g.; AIO RGB) in my life, I'll buy a gold chain, and not worry about a pump failure and my CPU being toasted by that without any warning.

  59. I went with A/C on my Ryzen 1600 an Arctic Freezer 33 eSports One. I originally had planed to use the stock Ryzen cooler but when Newegg put this one on sell for$16.41 one day I couldn't resist it.The reason I went with A/C is cost.

  60. In terms of transport water cooling is better. Because if you move around your PC, the air cooler will exert even more torque to the Mainboard than regularly.

    But air-coolers could help cooling your ram and vrm and such

    Oh yeah one more thing.

    Air cooling will take away the great slower than water cooling but the heatblock will cool down faster than water.

  61. An important point to be mentioned is RAM clearance with air. Can't use many of those fancy-ass RAM kits like Trident Z Royals or Team Group's really cool memories with most high-end air coolers. If that aesthetic is important for you, then air coolers, in general, are not going to fit over them. So then, CLCs like the Kraken X62, X72 are the way to go.

    Also, almost all CLCs are loud! The pump and the stock fans combined have a bad noise from which you cannot get away.

    Also, remember, the specific heat capacity of water is much higher than air. That means that, even though it can absorb more heat, it absorbs so far slower than air does. So, if you're gaming, where the CPU workload is keeps spiking and dropping incessantly, air will almost always be a better bet, if we're talking science. For sustained high clock speed workloads like renders/ transcodes, water is better.

  62. I went full custom loop because it looks cooler and is much quieter. The loudest part of any system in my experience is going to be the gpu fans when playing an intensive game. With a 360mm radiator and a full cover waterblock I can keep the fan speed relatively low and keep temps lower than with the stock cooler.

  63. I used a closed loop water cooler for my last build mostly to keen my cpu cooler in our seriously hot Australian summers, I was also hoping it would be much quieter, not sure if that occurred or not as my system is pretty loud in spite both the graphics and cpu being water cooled, I think I need to change all the fans used. I also think the water coolers look far nicer and it leaves the rest of the system accessible.

  64. Let's just say that this was a complete waste of a potentially good video.

    The Ryzen 3000 series is going gangbusters – the biggest German retailer sold more Ryzen 3600 CPUs alone than all of Intel's CPUs added together – and for the single chiptlet CPUs (3600, 3600X, 3700X, 3800X) the portion of the water block which has the heat exchanging fins inside covers has less than one quarter of its heat exchanging area covering the hotspot because the chiplets are not in the centre of the PCB (Printed Circuit Board) but rather in the corner.

    An air cooler on the other hand will have 50% of its cooling capacity covering that spot.

    This is why I chose a Noctua NH-U12A air cooler for my 3600X system rather than a CLC

  65. LOL the label on this air or liquid is a lie you are doing a run down on Air or gimick AIOs of course answer is Air custom loop or go air AIOs are crap

  66. I mean, if you're the type of person who's going to user-error the pipes going into your CLC, you also might be the type that drops your case three inches onto the desk with your NH-D15 on it, and instead of water damage, you break your motherboard.

    I'm careful with my shit and I'll be running air all day long, thanks…a 30 year old air cooler will still perform, a five year old water cooler is trash.

  67. Well I Pick air because I am lazy. Just as your boss said big air coolers can block your memory. I have had the same computer for 8 years with the stock cpu fan running on it. I have never cleaned the inside of my computer case. I know there is probably enough dust in there to grow tomatoes. (My bad) However, my cpu is running as I type this at 46 deg C. My Graphics card (also air cooled) at 58 deg c. I watch regularly some Youtube channels with hosts who (Like your boss and Jayztwocents) think water cooling is "Cool" and they install it on most of their builds. Then later when they want to replace something they might have to remove part of it (Custom cooling) an so have to drain everything and clean all the goop and corrosion out of the blocks and pumps and tubing and basically rebuild the whole system to do it. I can remove my air cooler and probably any air cooler (That I have seen so far) in 10 minutes. Then the only thing I have to clean is the thermal paste from the cooler and CPU and reinstall it (Usually with 4 screws).

    Don't get me wrong, I too think a neat custom water cooling build looks awesome. That is why so many cases come with clear tempered glass side panels so peeps can show it off. But temps are no better than quality air coolers and the custom cooling systems cost way more than the best air cooler (which is like 100 bucks or less).
    So, for me, lazy wins and my stuff stays just as cool. And cleaning is easier. Just use my little blower to blow out the dust. That of course is only when I have to cause the temps are too high. Surprisingly not in the last 8 years.

  68. I've got a Coolermaster Seidon 240v I bought 2nd hand, its doing wonders for me. But once this dies out I am definitely going air. Still makes me nervous that this will one day leak. :/

  69. i rather stay on Air Cooler. it is the starter pack of all mother technology right now. although big difference water cooling is a bit neat because no heatsink attach. but i rather stay
    on Air Cooling, i'am not a mobile phone or products always changing parts, i preferred economical. But if your concern about cooling the cpu , just play on the room with air conditioning 😀 IMAO. Problem solve with no worries, it is electronics and takes it life span, but if you have money go for it nyahahah

  70. Why do I choose air cooling?
    It seems the object is to transfer heat from one location to another.
    Water can do this until it reaches saturation then it just fails to transfer heat. Plus it is complicated. Pumps, hoses, radiators, electrical connections.
    Air is direct and to the point.
    Your PC may get very hot.
    With water it may take awhile to get the temps to return to normal.
    With air being direct as soon as the load decreases to the temps decrease.
    Plus you get all that lovely airflow over your boards critical components.
    The trouble lies in the case selection.
    In a market dominated by the liquid cooled mania; Finding a case optimized for airflow can be a challenge.

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