sex on the internet, the realities of porn, sexual privacy,

sex on the internet, the realities of porn, sexual privacy,



thanks everyone for coming and it's my pleasure to present violet blue thanks for coming and piling in here this is really packed and it's really really awesome before I say anything I just want to let you know that there won't be any explicit sexual imagery up here I'm sorry everyone's r18 right but there is going to be some frank sexual talk so if you're uncomfortable with Frank graphic explicit sexual talk now's the time to probably leave I saw some if you brought luncheon he'll a good idea so if you looked at the posters that we're so sweetly put all over the Google campus you have an idea of sort of my resume and what that basically describes is that I've been a sex educator and a writer for almost 10 years I have over 20 published books in this form the print form and I have some immediate as well I have audiobooks and some ebooks coming out soon the stuff that I've written is all nonfiction so it's all how-to information on sex which stems from being a sex educator working in the field lecturing doing peer to peer support peer to peer counseling and working with sex information hotline San Francisco sex information that's SF si org which is basically we take anyone and everyone who has some kind of crazy emergency sometimes non-emergency or just sort of a my normal question about sex and talk to them and I lecture to the students so I'm actually at the point now where I educate the educators and when I worked at Good Vibrations I helped develop their educational department and what I did there was I also develop their outreach department which was sending teams to places like Planned Parenthood and teaching them about sex toys and sending teams to places like halfway houses for developmentally disabled adults and teaching them you know about good sex and bad sex and being able to sort of navigate their life as adults and things like that so I have a pretty wide repertoire I have a lot of experience a lot of online experience with sex and searching for sex not just because I've had a blog for a long time I've been doing sex podcasting for a long time but also because I've been working for a site called flash bought comm for the past several years and fleshpot is a Gawker media site however we're sort of an island unto ourselves in many ways in that it's been run by one person it's been run by jonno for a very long time and I was the second person that he hired to come on partly because he was reblogging a lot of stuff that I was blogging and then we started talking him we're like hey we should use do this together but he also wanted to bring in inclusivity to the site so it's a site you know that's for it's primarily targeted toward a heteronormative audience so like a straight male audience if you will about porn run by a gay man administrated by someone like me so and then since then we've hired a bunch of other bloggers so that we can have a really cover a really diverse spectrum all genders and oral all orientations and sort of also get in a little bit of a subversive message that there isn't just one kind of sex out there so the title of this talk is sex on the internet the realities of porn sexual privacy online and search which actually wasn't the title that I picked that was uh that was my editor in the front row so I came with subtitle which is cataloging all the world's information even if it's taboo as you can see I have someone looking for stealing cat and if you're unfamiliar with stealing cat there it's a online mole cat meme stealin cat is watching you masturbate so the joke is that stealing cat is watching you do naughty things which I think it's a great analogy for things about sexual privacy online and I'm going to be doing a bit of reading here because there I've done there are a lot of things in here called facts that I want to make sure that I get right so believe it or not the Internet has changed human sexuality forever as we know it I think that we have yet to see the effects of how the Internet has changed the way that we express ourselves as human beings basically sexual information has been locked down commodified it's been held in certain channels it's been presented in certain ways sexual information and pornography has been held to controlling interests due to government influences due to personal opinion doing to religious influences and also due to distribution influences distribution influences primarily being people like booksellers who won't sell books about certain sect sex topics which is why a majority of my books are with independent publishers so I can talk about sex from an all genders all orientations perspective which mainstream sex publishing is still scared to death of even though they're trying to negotiate with me for books they're still like super afraid that I talked to gays and stuff like that it's amazing how backwards they are but the Internet has sort of leveled a playing field for what I see is the democratic dissemination of sex information and being able to sort of talk to everyone about that basically it's sort of like a free-market approach to sex people are being able to sort of look for what they want and find what they want working on a site like flush ba I've been able to see and see stats and look at stats at what people are actually interested in I've been able to sort of play with and test with looking what you know people have been looking for well and not just on fleshpot but on my site and other sites as well what's really afforded people the opportunity to start to make choices about developing what I see is their own sort of sexual operating systems because I come from the belief that everyone's sexuality it's as individual to them as a fingerprint and we sort of taken information from different places and we assemble what what works best for us and I think that it's a constant assembly I think that you know if the first version didn't work so it was beta and do it again so so basically what supporting people the ability to do this is being able to go online and have what they perceive as sexual privacy you know it used to be that you would need to go to the porn store or you would go you know you would get an Adam and Eve catalog with a very limited range of things to choose from the you know we're sex toys that weren't even necessarily chosen because they're made of healthy products but because they're made of cheap products and put together by people who don't really care about the sexual health the sexual pleasure or what's going on with people that they're selling these products to well like I said the Internet has changed that because people now have privacy of course the problem is that people aren't as anonymous as they think what I want to talk about for is I want to talk about the user first and it's who looks for sex online and what are be looking for well I think the first obvious answer to all of that is that people are looking at sex on line to get off and I know that it's horribly taboo to talk about but basically what we're talking about is masturbation people jacking off there are a lot of perceptions about people who are interested in sex the idea of anyone being interested in sex other than for usual mainstream media reasons is is quite taboo the idea of looking at sex or being interested in sex purely for the sake of pleasure is something that a lot of people just simply don't want to talk about and the perceptions of people who are doing that tend to get shoved in the corner of the guy with the raincoat you know it's that sort of stereotype where it's like oh well if you're really interested in sex or if you're searching for it or looking for it you must you know immediately be doing something immoral or be thinking bad thoughts who else is looking for it well people who are curious anyone who is curious about sex I'm sure pretty much everyone in the world at this point has opened up a browser and typed in sex just to see what's gonna come up because we're curious we're monkeys it's true I think another another group of people who are looking for sex online are people who are seeking accurate and unbiased non-judgmental sex information sometimes that information that they're looking for is urgent and I'll go into that in a second another subset of people who are looking for sex online are people who are seeking community people who feel alone desperate isolated and even folks who just want to know if they're normal or not which is pretty much the most common question how am i normal a couple of quick points which I'll develop later as well is the role of search in all of this first of all I think the role of such the role of search in sex the strongest role is fighting spam it's a big big problem it's a big problem for people like me who want to get accurate information out there and I just can't even imagine what you all go through dealing with spammers because they're just they're pretty insidious unfortunately they're not like trolls because thrills trolls are stupid and easily defeated spammers tend to be a little smarter which is a bummer also in the role of search I think is understanding perceived sexual minorities for people who are perceived as sexual minorities their practices and especially their self labeling staying active with the current online taxonomy for the terms that perceived sexual minorities and I'm talking even about lesbian gay bisexual and trans people staying current with that taxonomy that they used to self-identify with it's really tricky because it's changing all the time I recently did a series of pieces where I was data mining Craigslist and I dated mined Craigslist because I just wanted to see like who was looking for what at any given point any given time in any given neighborhood in San Francisco and it was pretty interesting to see who was into what into different neighborhoods some things were fairly predictable like the you know the cliche of the businessman looking for the quick blowjob in you know in you know the hotel district that's pretty obvious but I came up with some other surprises as well what I really came up with that surprised me which I didn't develop into a piece was what I started figuring out when I was data mining Craigslist and I'm talking about you know just the quick and dirty personals is when I started doing it on a nationwide level because I started to unearth taxonomy that even I was unfamiliar with that people were using as terms to search for and to connect with each other so I think that part of the role of search is kind of keeping up with those terms and maybe even having community liaisons who can help explain what these terms mean and demystify these terms one piece I wrote while I was at South by Southwest I got this email from an F to M porn site which is female to male transsexual and they were having a hard time with their google adsense words where words that they consider respectful and that they use to identify themselves in a way there are a lot of disrespectful terms that are used toward these sexual minorities especially transsexual people and the terms that they use to self-identify we're sort of getting put in the wrong bucket and ending up coming up as you know ads for things that were really insulting degrading disgusting and even illegal so they appealed to me for help and I just sort of made some noise about it and I think it sort of raised the level of awareness of how people are labeling themselves so I think the other role of search that I think is really important is understanding the importance of unbiased results whether for the users titillation ie porn healthy sexual expression pleasure and enjoyment and you know as we all know porn is legal in America the emergent trend of sex news and important entertainment resources such as blogs or for the delivery of accurate sex information all of which I think can easily get confused with spam so that's really tricky so the question is and I'll go back to who these people are now is who needs sexual privacy accurate search results and unbiased sex information the most and now I'm talking specifically about perceived sexual minorities lesbian gays bisexual and transgender people those identified by their sexual orientation or gender identity regardless of their interest in the act of sex in most places LGBTQ and questioning people face hostility from within as from without the outside world community healing hookups and hot pouring which is important can be found online of course Matthew Shepard found out in 1998 that being gay in Wyoming was a death sentence brutal transgender murders like Brandon Teena which is what the movies boys don't cry was based on still happen as evidenced in the 2002 murder of 17 year-old male to female Gwen Araujo from Newark California but with a quick google search now trans identity becomes more of a community and less of a mystery or a quote gay panic murder defense when justice should have had should have been served which it wasn't anyone with an outsider sexual interest such as people Apple folks know this is actually I was in the I was in the Pride Parade this year and so I thought this was a great shot that I took from the car that I was riding in I was I was riding with my adopted mother who is transgender captain or president rather of the police commission of San Francisco Theresa Sparks but anyone with an outsider sexual interest such as a fetishes oh and by fetishist I actually mean someone into balloons or coeds with colds it's a it's a real sight check it out it's not it's not explicit it's really cute anonymity and direct access allows someone who feels alone possibly self-hating and misunderstood and often a fetishist hides their favorite way to masturbate from their chosen and life-long sex partners to find community and fetishes you know just really quickly I'm not just talking about Lunars but I'm also talking about when you think of sexual fetish you know we tend to think of you know the people who are sort of interested in like the fringes with the more extreme or the more funny or or the more you know or aegis or easy to make fun of sexual interests but you know common sexual fetishes are more socially accepted fetishes are like big boobs or big dicks so it's good for thought BDSM and kink it's interested people as well those interested in power exchange sex bondage sensory play pain complicated scenarios and predicaments that involve fear and power over scenes are common targets for media discrimination until Hollywood gets over it and the dinosaur era mainstream media outlets shop stop showing BDSM as abuse using it as a trope for female degradation and telling us that kink and BDSM are dark and dangerous habits that can kill you which is exactly what happened in the SF weekly two weeks ago and in a CNN article yesterday psycho and psychiatrist stopped categorizing BDSM interests as an illness these people still need access they need information and needing community again anyone needing non-biased accurate sex information that's any kid in the Bible Belt worried that they're pregnant because their boyfriend came on their leg this is an actual question that we got on this visi hotline and this we've seen actually as a direct result of four or five years of abstinence education in schools since absence education has come in to schools across the nation we at the hotline have seen an increase in calls from young people who really are like oh my god can I get AIDS from sitting on a toilet seat because no one's telling them what's going on and unfortunately as an effect we're seeing a rise and STD rates as well because they're not knowing how not to get and they don't even know what they're doing actually they think they can they think that you know not they think that oral sex isn't sex and they're thinking about anal sex is something that helps maintain their virginity so we're also talking about trans people so desperate they want to self-medicate with hormones someone wondering if they're gay someone trying to asphyxiate themselves during masturbation without killing themselves and needing to know how the guy who wrote me last week about a broken condom with his girlfriend or the girl that emailed me last month who had just had sex for the first time and couldn't stop the bleeding and didn't know what to do I was the person she reached out to a total stranger about someone that she felt that she could ask this question to and you know that's also the guy with a flashlight stuck in his ass you should have just visited 50 org so who else needs this information women in a January kneel submit ratings poll they found that one in three women were accessing porn online and that's just women who self disclosed that they were we were accessing porn online of course we're looking at porn but we're doing so improve aceo or at least what we perceive to be privacy we're more empowered as ever women period to ask for what we want sexually at least of ourselves in anonymity and be and fuck whoever we want in whatever form we want in places like Second Life where you can be a different gender if you want to female bloggers don't need to be sex bloggers to have serious need for online privacy but gender does make us sexual targets I don't need to communicate to you how many went about how women are special targets online statistically and in real life we all know a female rape victim sober stalking as we all know gets perfectly ugly when it's focused on women sex workers sex workers of all gender this means porn stars as well I have an interesting example of that in a moment actually darrel online privacy I'll quote also equals their physical safety in different jurisdictions may or may not agree sex shoppers porn and sex toy consumers customers people plunk down their credit cards and personal info online all too often without obsessing the risk of doing so there's often so much sex sexual shame involved in whatever they're buying they tend to just go for him some companies bait and switch customers saying they'll ship in a plain brown wrapper while selling customer input of third parties pretty much everyone anyone who could lose a job a lover a friend a court case child custody or visitation freedom under the Constitution or could face physical or emotional harm from being added for their interest in or sexual identity and that sounds like a sermon but I have a couple of examples to show you so what we're talking here about in a lot of ways is the illusion of sexual privacy online if people knew how much their privacy was at risk when they paid for porn or posted or answered that Craigslist ad or searched for canine and Google would they still do it probably it's easy for those of us who know our way around the Internet's to laugh at Nigerian bank scammers but the internet is growing new users every single day and will continue to until you all stop breeding but no one's telling people not to do stupid things like give out personal info and sexual situations from experimentation and masturbation to point-of-purchase because the whole topic is still taboo how many of you have heard of the Craigslist experiment okay so that's I would say about a quarter of the room all right sorry to show you this photo it's horrifying the Craigslist experiment in September 2006 griefer extraordinaire Jason Fortuny and his friend took a hardcore women seeking men ad from another city and reposted it on Craigslist Seattle to see how many replies he and his friend could get in 24 hours then he published every single response photos emails I am info phone numbers names everything to public wiki encyclopedia dramatica then they went public on Jason's live journal page calling it the Craigslist experiment inviting readers to identify the craigslist ads responders and add more info quote your goal identify people you know IRL in real life and point them out we've already had great successes here the page is still life this is a screen cap from just last week it wasn't just any kind of ad but a hardcore BDSM ad posting where female submissive was looking for a rough male dominant to beat her up and fucker the ads language suggests to me and many other sex educators that the original poster actually had no idea with the language they were using meant clearly what the person was asking for was well beyond the safe saying sm community definitions this and a few other details suggested to me and other sex educators that I talked to about it that the original Met ad may have indeed been placed by men experimenting with transgender identity searching for that female extreme the extreme of female submission here's the text the point is Jason and his cohort cohort took the ad at face value as an average and got a face value response to what the ads message sent out to the world they got a hundred and seventy eight responses with a hundred and forty five photos of men cocks faces and more full email addresses both personal and business addresses names and a few I M names and phone numbers one respondent uses in my one respondent used a Microsoft employee email address and another used a USR army military email address respondents emailed Fortuny asking him to take the info down and he simply published their requests for 20 then had his private info published a Craigslist and was threatened physically with lawsuits and has been basically hated on by everyone from online vs BDSM communities to Wired who called himself units sociopathic now while C researching my sex books I've placed ads on Craigslist just to get a random sampling or to get ideas every time I've received an overwhelming amount of troll responses of course with photos I didn't ask for offers I didn't ask for and sometimes some pretty evil language I've definitely entertained the idea of doing something with this information that they're sending me but just thinking about it makes me feel better it'sit's something that I could never conceive of someone actually doing in real life but unfortunately in this case someone did and it's pretty common I actually have joked with other female sex bloggers and female sex educators about receiving unsolicited in like extremely personal information from people via email and in fact have joked over beers oh my god you got a face pic ur8 so ultimately in the Craigslist experiment a high percentage of these guys lives were changed in a major way now here's the here's the not eat your lunch photo censored censored for your viewing pleasure and this is how we censored it when we put it on flash bought the top photo is someone's who's someone whose photo was reposted and the bottom photo was the photo that was used in the ad some might argue that the Craigslist experiment is an inevitable form of online natural selection if you have something to lose don't do something that could make you lose it and I think personally that if our culture was made to feel less ashamed about sex Jason's results would be quite different in a follow-up to the the blog posting that I did on my personal blog I received an email forwarded from the King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office stating based on what I've read in the media accounts I would like to say that there is no violation of our state Criminal Code involved here yet so what he did was actually illegal right after the Craigslist experiment granted this was last year around this time there was a copycat in Portland yesterday in Gainesville Florida there was another copycat post which was flagged and removed within a few hours so I have another example for you it's very hot photo the police officer recently fired for hovering having an adult sight last month an Arizona officer was officially fired for running a sex website with his wife went off the clock a three-judge San Francisco 9th Circuit US Court of Appeals panel ruled against the former first officers First Amendment free speech right and right to privacy focused case which of course directly affects any individual's sexual privacy online and shows I think just how ignorant a lot of us circuit judges are about the Internet the judges ruled that because what the former officer did was quote vulgar indecent sleazy and disreputable he has no right to keep his job as a public servant the thing is what the former officer and his wife did was simple boring amateur porn okay I'm sorry but I'm surprised anyone paid for it seriously it was just it was like they're swingers right it was just like him and his wife and it was a pay site it would be pictures of him and her having sex pictures of her masturbating or pictures of her with another girl so I mean it's pretty pretty pedestrian stuff considering what's out there the only offense here is that there were a couple being exhibitionist swingers one judge didn't agree and I thought that was really interesting and I have a little bit from his concurrence in the judgment with all due respect this is from Judge candy with all due respect I am unable to join the majority opinion under the facts of the case in the existing precedent the police department could not discharge Dibble Ronald double that's his name for his website expression without violating the First Amendment as the majority opinion points out Dibble was careful not to identify himself or his website with the police department or with police status at all now I recognize that pornography although apparently popular it's not a very respected subject of First Amendment protection in many quarters the majority opinion here reflects that distaste variously characterizing dibbles expressive activities as vulgar indecent sleazy and disreputable but vigorous enforcement's of the first of the free speech guarantee of the First Amendment often requires that we protect speech that many even a majority find offensive pornography and sexual expression in general is protected by the First Amendment when that does not constitute obscenity and there is no showing that dibbles expression meets that extreme standard when sexual when applied to sexually sorry when applied to sexually expressive activities this ruling has disturbing potential for expansive application and this is a photo I actually took it pride this year the all of the I rode with the police contingent which is really fun and they were very very proud these are their pride beads hanging from their sidearms the judge concluded a measurable segment of the population for example is vigorously antagonistic to homosexual activity and expression it could easily be encouraged to mobilize where a police officer discovered to have engaged off-duty and unidentified by his activity in a gay pride parade or expressive cross-dressing or any number of expressive activities that might fan the embers of antagonism smoldering in a part of the population I have another example and this is uh this is a more first-person example here the story of anonymous sex blogger girl with a one-track mind this is a recent screencap from her site as I've told you I've been a blogger and an occasional Girl Friday editor at fleshpot calm for the past few years a job when full time requires me to scour the Internet's for explicit sexual content of reasonable quality we endeavor to cover a wide range of sexual expression and all genders and orientations and I'll tell you when Johnno lives in New Orleans and when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans I ended up running flush bought for two months by myself with no I basically know the employees so I was doing 12 to 15 posts a day so that pretty much required me to be an expert on taxonomy terminology where to find it how to find it who was doing circle-jerk linking who was doing spamming you know who was you know doing redirects and get myself really familiar with the variety of different types of sexual expression online and also see how they could be blogged we we have a regular feature that's called the sex blogger roundup and what the sex blog roundup is it's really cool because what it is is it's a weekly installment where we do a post that takes excerpts from sort of the best of individual sex blogs and these are sex blogs that our text usually no photos in fact rarely photos if ever so what we're concentrating on is is text porn erotica basically erotic lit but what's exciting about it is that it's generally people's real-life experiences as they're writing them down usually as anonymous bloggers when I did this weekly I had upwards of 200 text only sex blogs written by individuals worldwide in my RSS reader outside the 50 to 75 usual suspects of variety sex blogs MSM news linked ups link dumps and other sex news blogs every week I would have to call for new blogs I had to read them and add to my feeds more because invariably a handful of sex bloggers who are blogging anonymously had to quit blogging meaning they were for one reason or not another no longer anonymous it was such a regular occurrence I developed a pretty snarky attitude toward the limited lifespan anonymous sex blogger even though they often offered up the juiciest and most explicit posts about sex there are still a lot of regular anonymous sex bloggers who maintain their privacy but they're extremely careful and very web savvy in doing so although I know a number of them outside their web personas from New York to Alaska and to London London is where I found the hot post of single anonymous female sex blogger the loved and respected girl with a one-track mind when I visited London a few years back I met the girl in the flesh and we had a very good night of good old-fashioned English drinking we went out to pubs and we had a fabulous time what was really interesting though was the entire time that I was hanging out with her and talking about trials and tribulations of sex blogging blogging on the internet blogging personal blogging you know versus blogging private stuff etc etc because on my personal blog I blog about my own life as well she refused to tell me her actual name the entire evening we spent together she in fact told me a pseudonym I thought that was kind of interesting she also picked my brain because she really really wanted to be appalled the published offer author she wanted a book she wanted a book about her website she wanted a book about her blog and a book about her exploits which she got she later to get that book deal named after her blog and upon publication in August of last year found herself ambushed outside her London flat by paparazzi and au K outed in the UK tabloids three days after the book was published she wrote I guess I was welled into a false sense of security regarding my anonymity because I knew that Belle de Jour who is another an anonymous sex blogger and also British was hounded by the press and still managed to keep her identity private well I may have a high traffic blog and a book detailing my sexual adventures in the shops I'm not a prostitute like her so why I figured would anyone really be interested in Who I am on the 2n 2000 anniversary of her outing she recently blogged in retrospect I could talk about how I was the laughingstock at work everyone in the UK film industry knowing and discussing the most intimate details of my sex life she worked on the Harry Potter films by the way I could talk about how I had to go into hiding and how for a week the tabloids poked their long lens cameras through my parents letterbox and rang their doorbell and telephone constantly making both me and my parents live in a state of anxiety I could talk about how profoundly I was affected by the articles on me both in the media and online I wanted to challenge the lies misrepresentations and personal attacks but couldn't I could talk about how I wasn't made rich by the book and that losing my film career as a result of it made me worry that I wouldn't be able to pay my rent I could talk about how my friends were offered money to spilled the dirt on me and people from my past suddenly reappeared in my life making me paranoid that I couldn't trust anyone here's a picture of her she writes for Guardian UK now I could talk about how all my ex-lovers contacted me concerns that I had disguised them fully all of them now aware of my previous hidden feelings about them I could talk about how I then decided to give online dating another go only to discover that somehow every man had got into conversation with ended up on a date with knew that I was Abby Lee and was a fan of the blog making me immediately scamper in the other direction because I felt so vulnerable I could talk about how almost all the men I've met and/or been intimate with have asked me not to write about them even when we've had no more than a pint together I could talk in explicit detail about all the hot or not sex I've had but feel too exposed now that everyone knows who I am and my friends colleagues and acquaintances all read the blog I could talk about all these things on the blog if I were still anonymous but I'm not my outing last year was a huge strain on me and yes I have managed to find a silver lining out of it but the ability to freely do the one thing that gave me such pleasure blogging has been destroyed take the anonymity away from a blogger who depends on it and you get a blog with no heart true sincerity and authenticity about events people thoughts and feelings rely on anonymity I'll challenge anyone who says that anonymity shouldn't matter when someone is writing about their own lives it does so I mean lighten the atmosphere for a minute [Laughter] so active threats to sexual privacy online well right now that would be the US government so anyone here familiar with 2257 laws or the child obscenity Act a very small amount of people okay great in a nutshell 2257 refers to regulations under the child protection and an obscenity Enforcement Act of 1988 which specifies record-keeping requirements for those wishing to produce sexually explicit media and imposes criminal penalties for failure to comply this is supposedly to ensure that no person under the legal age is involved in porn though is of course only pursued within the realm of the perfectly legal adult porn industry industry and applicable only in the United States the regulations are directed toward the terms primary producer and secondary producer oh and if you feel like reading this is a 2257 statement on a Canadian website it's kind of ironic don't you think so the regulations are directed toward the terms primary producer and secondary producer this parts important a premier producer is defined in the set of rules as any person who actually films videotapes photographs or photographs a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct a secondary producer is defined as any person who produces assembles manufactures publishes duplicates reproduces reproduces or reissues a book magazine periodical film videotape or other matter intended for commercial distribution that contains a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct different record-keeping requirements exist for primary versus secondary producers one may be both a primary and secondary producer not surprisingly this has come under many legal challenges as the definitions of actual sexually explicit conduct and secondary producer are vague perhaps intentionally so just as the definition of obscenity in the courts is left to so-called community standards for instance a fisting DVD may not be considered obscene by San Francisco community standards but it most certainly would be in Laramie Wyoming that's how obscenity that's how obscenity is prosecuted in America on a federal level at this point it's sort of a blanket you know leaving it to community standards letting the community to decide what's obscene for them or not but I believe that these laws are intentionally I believe that the wording about sexually explicit conduct is intentionally vague and I believe that the the definition of sexually secondary producer is intentionally vague as well and I think that that's sort of mafia style on the government side of things to keep anyone who comes near a porn image ever ensure if they're in violation of the law and when recent 2257 record-keeping requirements came down about a year and a half ago which have been challenged about secondary producers which is reposting the content i got in this great conversation with a friend of mine who runs a an erotic online magazine which is primarily just like non explicit pinup galleries and covering sex events around the United States and then articles about sex and sexuality and sort of news briefs and things like that and his boss made it his job to go through every single image that they had on the site and tried to determine if each image was considered sexually explicit conduct and I talked him on the phone while he was going through it and he was like I'm looking at this picture of a girl's ass and I'm like is that red from a sunburn or is it red from a spanking so you see what we're going through here now the idea of having porn producers keep stringent laws or keep stringent records is of course a really good idea what's unfortunate is that this is being enforced in legitimate adult businesses it's not being thought of or applied to anything outside a legitimate adult businesses and these you know mainstream porn people who have these giant companies and corporations like vivid and wicked and stuff like that they want to keep their businesses they're making a lot of money of course they're gonna follow the rules it's it's it's ridiculous that they're raiding these people and they're not really doing anything else with this but what's interesting about this to me sexual privacy wise this poses a serious threat sex workers and now you wouldn't think about this but I have personal experience with this at this point not because I'm a sex worker but as a blogger she looks pretty young doesn't she it's kind of creepy this is on her teen website this is what she's using for her 2257 documentation so if you click her on her site for 2257 documentation this is what you get this is why you'll start to see it's a pretty serious threat people don't know what to do and they're doing some really scary things notably to porn performers an extras in video and imagery the government might consider sexually explicit conduct for example more than once for flesh BOTS and for my personal blog porn creators you know and people who make porn they they want you know they're starting to get the Internet right they want access to blogs they want access to traffic and they also want access to people like me who are educators that will present their material in context and to you know promote their stuff they'll sense you know do you want images do you want a short clip and you want the 2257 materials that go with this to my alarm I'm FedEx DVDs with scans of each performers driver's license social security cards image of images of them holding their IDs and their social security cards next to their faces copies of their contracts and signatures complete with current address and all personal information like their true names what's important to know is that these performers have no idea this information has been sent to me nor do they know who I am and this business practice is commonplace unfortunately some admittedly low-grade sites I've found allow surfers to click through and see the photo IDs of the models I believe we have yet to see the dark ramifications of the privacy protections these sex workers no longer have and a quick google image search 2257 ID it's right there you can find a lot more so hey he's asking what types of searches lead to things like this and all I did well safe search off hello I know yeah and there's a lot more like this that a us-based but it was it was simply a matter of safe search off going to Google Image Search typing in 2257 ID and I also found some when I went to 22 when I typed in 2257 proof this was on page for the teen I think was on the previous team was on page 2 so and this is these findings are from a week ago last Friday so I get a fresh one for you next time hopefully not okay so what else is interesting about sexual privacy online and what sort of is posing a threat or bringing up some interesting questions 2.0 sites and understanding what isn't isn't porn porn or not good question these days don't you think unfotunately some people are perfectly fine with that others are totally freaking out that someone is having sexual thoughts about their feet without their express consent nonetheless is it flickers role to police these activities well it's a really good question and brings into play the changing cultural values and judgments about what constitutes porn acceptable use of images individuals create and how they're seen by others I'll argue that any foot fetishist probably sexualizes feet on the bus in the park or online the only difference is that the online software is giving the foot owners the access to see how the people in the world around them might see their feet now they know what they otherwise wouldn't know and can't control the notions of community standards for porn or obscenity I believe simply don't work in application to worldwide data clusters social networking sites have no idea where they fall into 2257 regulations as to their role to users and have been fumbling blindly with the notions of community standards with disastrous and embarrassing results this was a direct result of when or what Flickr has been going through trying to work with the German government around how they want to police their internets so I am aware that you had a talk here September 21st by someone named Shelley Lubben oh no that's sad I really wanted to come it was a day before my birthday oh I had some questions for well I'll go for a couple of her points because I think they're really interesting and I think that they were circulated to all of you as as fact I you know one of my questions was just if she could provide data or URLs for any of the things that she was asserting and a good with her offered to you know find help find fact and things like that right like offered to go over a presentation and find what things are supported by even surveys or any sort of data points and I guess that was a bit intimidating and so she decided to quit because she thought that that was too hostile well it's a good point though so you've got people like Shelley Lubben out there running around right saying how porn is bad and porn is evil and she's getting a lot of access media like to listen to people like her because she says crazy things about porn and people like O'Reilly Factor just eat this stuff up you know for instance I'm the frightening vizag Oh Shelley Lubben aka porn star Roxie who was a performer ten years ago and hasn't been involved in the porn industry since so that's you know kind of speaks to some of the accuracy of her recent experience in data one of the things she told you guys was that 66% of porn performers are infected with herpes the truth to that is that one in five Americans are infected and porn performers are no different how do we know they're no different well I talk with people like Sharon Mitchell at aim aim is the adult industry medical health care foundation which was found as many years ago when there was an HIV outbreak in the adult industry and Sharon Mitchell was working in the industry at the time and realized that there was a serious need for sex education in the porn industry there was a need for accurate information about STI STD and virus transmission and also she wanted to set up basically a standardized testing center where all performers would go through the standardized testing center get tested be tested regularly and has worked very closely with the mainstream adult industry people which are the same people being rated by the FBI to make sure that their records are you know that they're employing adults she works closely with these companies and everyone is on a 30-day regimen for testing and they must provide their 30-day testing documentation in order to perform on the day that they show up they have to have the documentation with they don't they can't fax it they can't say I'll bring it later or anything like that they have to have it and I'll also add to that I've done a lot of work and a lot of research and a lot of writing about the type of testing the aims does because I was really curious like 30 days for screening like you know normally when one goes to get an HIV test it's a three to six month window in San Francisco and I was like how are they doing this turnaround at 30 days well it turns out they're using one of the most advanced HIV tests that you can get in the United States the PCR DNA test so they're pretty on it one of the things that are lovely Shelly also told you guys was that women do not enjoy making porn this plays into the myth that women don't like sex wouldn't enjoy sex out of the context of heteronormative romantic relationships or enjoy sport fucking porn performers are not like the rest of us they're not they like sex for sport they are physically sexual athletes it's like Cirque de Soleil sex seriously they Bend in these crazy positions like and they do it because they like it people who don't like being in the porn industry leave the porn industry they don't stay in it there's a constant amount of people who are interested in getting involved in the porn industry because it's quick and easy money it's starting to be a semi glamorous profession and it's pretty regulated so there's a bit of a safety net oh one of the other safety nets I want a dimension to that aim does is that every every new talent that comes in every new model that's girl/boy trans whatever comes through and goes through a pre counseling session before appearing in a video where they sit down and they watch a really kind of boring video that's long and talks about STDs and getting tested and what their tests are going to be like and talked to them all about their privacy and their confidentiality also talks to them about the social ramifications of getting involved in working in porn and doing sex work also talks about the counseling programs that are available to them through aim if they want to do any counselling or they need anybody to talk to and also aim has a transition program for people who want to transition into other types of work so they also help people get other jobs if they decide they don't want to do porn anymore one of the things that miss Levin also said which is a very commonly asserted myth porn stars are victims of child abuse and sexual abuse including early exposure to pornography as it as you probably have heard there is no single unbiased study that bears this assertion out it's another shameful myth perpetuated about sex workers the minute I find a study the minute I find a study that bears anything about this out I will most certainly publish it on my website the only thing the only things that I've come that I've come across that are close to making this assertion based on polls or anything like that come from Christian organizations so they have an agenda another thing that she only talked about was that approximately 10 percent porn performers are currently infected with HIV and that goes with her 66 percent of porn performers being infected you know the dirty shameful myth about how they're all gross and dirty and spreading disease and stuff Shelly doesn't have access to those statistics she doesn't have access to aim statistics because they're confidential one of the other funny things she said I love this no other industry has more suicide related deaths than the porn industry according to according to the Association of psychologists and psychiatrists health care professionals doctors and dentists have the highest suicide rate also EMTs and nurses followed by food assembly and preparation personnel that would be people in working in slaughterhouses actually [Laughter] what's important to know is why people like Shelley want to come and talk to you and why they want to talk to everybody about why this is all dirty and bad and evil and how we need to close off the Internet's so people can't you know for the kids which you know whenever people say that they're doing things for the children it's always a foil for some other agenda and you should always see it as a red flag as far as I'm concerned Shelley Lubben is an active proponent of Utah's CPA D legislation which states at essence anybody providing open wireless access that a miner uses to access pornography will be subject to a fine repeated violations are subject to criminal and/or civil prosecution now part of my talk I was going to go on the Internet's and show you the man behind CPA D legislation is a guy named Ralph P ro and you might want to check him out check out his Wikipedia page I mean as as updated and accurate as Wikipedia is it still has interesting information about him and about his CPA D legislation which is you know poor 80 the most recent version of the CPI D legislation was signed off and publicly endorsed by the governor of Utah so that's something y'all want to check out and keep in mind so the question is right what do we do how do we talk about this what are our next steps as a sex educator I think that it's a case of informed risk and harm reduction as anyone aware of what inform risk or harm reduction is a sex that sends a couple people don't be don't be embarrassed I think that for everyone sexual privacy and sexual access to non biased non-judgmental information should be seen as a case to inform risk and an attempted harm reduction just like was safer sex simply put harm reduction is a progressive approach to Public Health which takes into account that people are going to engage in risky behaviors even if they know better or not unprotected sex drug use and I'd like to add sex in the Internet harm reduction attempts to mitigate risks and dangers by creating alternatives some things that harm reduction has done is rather than just say no or don't drive drive drunk harm reduction creates designated driver campaigns and controversial initiative like the provision of condoms in public schools and needle exchange programs so here's another fun picture from Pride opponents countered that harm reduction condones unsafe activities I think with sex online and particularly with poor and it's more extreme because pervasive cultural attitudes are still so deeply anti sex and sex negative sexual interest is considered immoral in both media and government so I think it's now become sort of I don't know a pet project of mine or at least a civic duty to try and tell people how to protect their sexual privacy privacy because I think it's the most vulnerable kind at this point of a huge safer porn stripping page on my website for that very reason users need to know basics about protecting their identity and I think online businesses should educate their users in a non biased way and it's getting pretty urgent for them to do so at the very least there are basic general privacy guidelines that anyone should know about basic safety precautions right up there with always use Lube for and all sex so people are going to do uninformed and sometimes dumb things with their sexual privacy on the Internet as I said earlier knowing the risks the horny surfer will still click a risky link to get off or because they're curious or get themselves in shady or dangerous situations because they lack community or information and even more so since the barriers to Internet access and making online content becomes less and lower every day those were the cops at pride there's the user again and thank you thanks for listening I don't know if we have time for questions or all right so I've got a microphone here the Utah legislation that you brought up made me wonder about something that I've only ever heard sort of rumors and myths about when you have an international community website like any kind of blogging or like journal or something like that then really like do you know whose jurisdiction things that are posted there come under is that who's hosting the site or is it where they're reading it and here I mean prosecuting the people who are giving the Wi-Fi seems a little bizarre to me definitely prosecuting people providing Wi-Fi seems extremely bizarre and I think that it speaks to the ignorance of the legislators when you start to talk about sex sexual privacy and sexual activity online pretty much all doors shut when it comes to legislation unless you talk about something that you're doing to save the children the important point that you brought up is where exactly do social sites fall where do where do things like livejournal fall you know how do these how are these companies where do they fit how are they going to deal with this right now nobody knows and they're all sort of trying to figure it out on their own and I don't think there's an answer to that yet unfortunately so 2257 may not bother the big professional pornographers but it can be a big hassle for social networks for the site's anything with user-submitted contents what they think is going to happen in that area that's a really interesting question because social networking sites some of them have wondered audibly and not whether they fall under 2257 secondary producer content content restrictions I don't know if some of you remember tribe net but tribe met a couple years ago for whatever their reasons decided to start voluntarily applying 2257 regulations to their users on their social networking site and they did so in with a lot of blanket so the tribe bubble-wrap fetish which was really just about bubble wrap was suddenly marked as a mature tribe pissing off the users and it also made users who had adult site had adult tribes you know which are basically places where people could cluster and sort of talk about their interests suddenly they were told directly that they are going to be held responsible for 2257 documentation for everything within their tribes basically everybody fled tribe and it was the downfall of that site it's now trying to resurrect itself again but it didn't work out very well for them so where do they fall that's a really good question did I answer all of that okay so um you were talking about how when you were maintaining the site it was Harper you do get up-to-date on all the different language available that's the community specific and I'm wondering I think will be also challenging for someone who is realizing they want to become part of a community to figure out what the appropriate language is especially if there's not any local influence what do you think I guess what do you think the development for that will be what you think the future of that is how do you think that can be made easier I think that making the development of that and making that easier it's definitely going to be the lowest entry level access that people can get to information about things like this so keeping something like Wikipedia up-to-date would be really really helpful and I would love to see more sex educators get involved in keeping Wikipedia up to date at least just with the you know with the terms and everything that everyone is using and write and speak more about you know how people are self labeling their gender what's acceptable and what's not and and also what I'd like to see added to that too is it's sort of some some guidelines to people who do have sexual fetishes and sort of may need some guidelines about how they would behave online as well one of the things that came up when I was taking a look at the the whole feet thing and people being upset about the feet thing on Flickr was that some people who were some of the foot fetishists where we're essentially adding themselves by leaving really inappropriate comments you know and so there needs to be some language out there that's you know as accessible to everyone as possible about that I think that having sites network sites that do indexing in particular having them network with community liaisons people who are working working actively you know with peer-to-peer counseling and frontline counseling likes visi org and organizations like that and you know even community health clinics to just sort of keep up with you know what people are calling themselves you know and also you know even sort of graphing like what sort of the urgent interests are at this point as well so keeping it as low low entry level as possible like Wikipedia basically I'm trying to keep it up to date I'm through your presentation you're using the words anonymous and private more or less interchangeably but they're there your concepts yes right Rome so what do you think is more important to people searching for accurate sex information or for porn what's more important and an enmity or privacy well I don't think that I could choose either one because I can't speak for the majority of users and I would also say that the majority of users could confuse the two terms I think that there is a tacit I I think that users tacitly think that when they're online they just are anonymous they don't know that they need to go uncheck things they don't need to you know they don't know that they need to erase their search history they don't you know the the new user doesn't know about cache and cookies and things like that so I think that I mean we're talking about people who are just figuring a lot of the stuff out they don't need you know they don't know that shopping at an online sex store you know well the sex store may you know can like guarantee their privacy in terms of shipping and packaging may not necessarily guarantee their anonymity when it comes to selling their info to third parties so I think that there's a lot of confusion between the two terms and as far as choosing which one is more important I would say that on a cultural value level anonymity because it allows people the freedom to figure out and look for and explore and trying to understand who they are more and but I think that privacy is a more would be the more physical urgent thing because privacy is the way that people get found out it's the way that people get outed it's the way that they can be tracked it's the way that they can be harassed stopped humiliated lose their jobs etc etc so back back to the 2257 searches were the are the paths to those to that content primarily through image search or are they and not so much through other other search entry points so if I you know if I search for 2257 on a on google.com website that's correct it was just the image search that led to the direct files although I've also randomly found websites that are like here's our 2257 info for each girl and the girl with their IDs and I'm like oh so this is back at the very beginning um you're talking about how you basically you know did a search through Craigslist I was just really curious do you have or do you have like an easily remember well link to um what the actual breakdown is oh when I was dating mining yeah like what do people mostly look for other you know what um it's a Google spreadsheet and it's public so although I'll get as soon as I'm done I'll put it on my on my site and it's and it's it's local data and then the beginnings of me starting to do the national data and then get to– I got totally freaked out about people having sex with dogs in Texas so I stopped for a while because it was like a lot of them and I was like oh this isn't gonna be a good article for The Chronicle how can I know but yeah it's a it's a Google Doc yeah Google Docs in its public cuz I think that and you know as I add you know go back and add more information it's fun to have people sort of like watch it grow and change and email me about you know different stuff so anybody else yeah thank you [Applause]

22 thoughts to “sex on the internet, the realities of porn, sexual privacy,”

  1. TH E VIDEO MAID SERVENT'S MESSAGE ME TOO @ SOLVING
    POVERTY ÌS HORRIBLE BOTH
    MASTER AND MAID UNMARIED
    YOUNG ALONE . NO GIRL SHOULD
    VANTURE SUCH A LIVING .
    ALL ARE FRIENDLY BUT ÑOT HAPPENS WITHOUT USE OF
    BASÌC SAFETY.

  2. My sex experience includes watching catholic family eat people. Got something for that? Honestly, my personal experience leaves me zero hope for those kinds of folks. Some behavior deserves permanent lonliness. It's coincidentally also the same way to train a bad dog. No attention, they really hate that.

  3. I had to watch this whole thing for a seminar and I have to write about it. This was the most boring talk I have ever listened to. Stop reading off of your papers!

  4. I disagree with the talker's POV toward the majority perspective on sexuality (which sounded negative). The normal is that society always have a taboo, which one of them can be/is sexuality (this taboo not need to be something negative). The point about a girl worried about STD & toilet seat is not necessary blameable on lack of sex education but rather lack of scientific knowledge in general, in fact, (surprise!) Herpes virus might able to infect this way since it can survive for weeks on any surface. 
    The problem can really be fixed in many other way rather than blaming sex Taboo. 

  5. My weird nephew managed to make the best pole dancer I’ve ever seen fall for him as he cheated by using the Cupid Love System (search in Google). I wish I’d been happy for him but I want such a beautiful young lady to fall in love with me. I’m extremely green with envy. Does that mean I’m a horrible individual?

  6. Great talk! I wish I could say something non-trivial in this comment box, but I don't know enough about this topic to say anything worthwhile.

    Thanks!

  7. Some are offended by sex and nudity in videos. Others are surprised that those people would be offended, but, is it right, or is it wrong? There are reasons it is right and wrong. It is our duty as people to listen to both reasons, to understand the truth. It's right, because they are real humans, using their real bodies to get pleasure. It's wrong, because it is UNNATURAL to present an embarrassing thing to online public, to meet sexually with people one doesn't know, and please superficially.

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