Pete Souza On Throwing ‘Shade’ At Trump | All In | MSNBC

Pete Souza On Throwing ‘Shade’ At Trump | All In | MSNBC


>>>PRESIDENT OBAMA’S OFFICIAL>>>PRESIDENT OBAMA’S OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER HAS HAD WHITE HOUSE PHOTOGRAPHER HAS HAD A FASCINATING PUBLIC LIFE. A FASCINATING PUBLIC LIFE. HIS PHOTOGRAPHS WHICH HE POSTS HIS PHOTOGRAPHS WHICH HE POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND INSTAGRAM, ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND INSTAGRAM, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN. YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN. THEY GET THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS THEY GET THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF LIKES. OF LIKES. THEY BECOME A VISUAL REMINDER OF THEY BECOME A VISUAL REMINDER OF THE INSANITY THAT WE LIVE THE INSANITY THAT WE LIVE THROUGH, BECAUSE HE CONSTANTLY THROUGH, BECAUSE HE CONSTANTLY IS POSTING IN RESPONSE TO THE IS POSTING IN RESPONSE TO THE NEWS. NEWS. AND HE’S SHOWING WHAT IT WAS AND HE’S SHOWING WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN WE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO LIKE WHEN WE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO WAS NOT THIS ONE. WAS NOT THIS ONE. IT WAS A PERSON WHO I THINK IN IT WAS A PERSON WHO I THINK IN IT’S FAIR TO SAY WAS IN SO MANY IT’S FAIR TO SAY WAS IN SO MANY WAYS PERSONALITY-WISE, IN EVERY WAYS PERSONALITY-WISE, IN EVERY WAY THE OPPOSITE. WAY THE OPPOSITE. HE WAS SELF-CONTROLLED. HE WAS SELF-CONTROLLED. DISCIPLINED, EMPATHETIC, AND HE DISCIPLINED, EMPATHETIC, AND HE TURNED SOME OF THOSE PHOTOS INTO TURNED SOME OF THOSE PHOTOS INTO A BOOK. A BOOK. IT’S CALLED SHADE, A TALE OF TWO IT’S CALLED SHADE, A TALE OF TWO PRESIDENTS. PRESIDENTS. IT’S COMING OUT WITH NEW IT’S COMING OUT WITH NEW PICTURES. PICTURES. JOINING ME NOW, PETE SOUZA. JOINING ME NOW, PETE SOUZA. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ]>>HAVE A SEAT.>>HAVE A SEAT. SO YOU STARTED PHOTOGRAPHING SO YOU STARTED PHOTOGRAPHING BARACK OBAMA THE FIRST DAY HE’S BARACK OBAMA THE FIRST DAY HE’S SWORN IN AS A U.S. SENATOR WHEN SWORN IN AS A U.S. SENATOR WHEN YOU’RE SWORN IN? YOU’RE SWORN IN?>>I WAS BASED IN D.C., WORKING>>I WAS BASED IN D.C., WORKING FOR THE TRIBUNE WHEN HE WAS FOR THE TRIBUNE WHEN HE WAS ELECTED TO THE SENATE IN ’04 AND ELECTED TO THE SENATE IN ’04 AND JOINED UP WITH HIM THAT FIRST JOINED UP WITH HIM THAT FIRST DAY THAT HE WAS SWORN IN. DAY THAT HE WAS SWORN IN.>>YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THESE SORT>>YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THESE SORT OF IMAGES LIKE THIS ONE WHERE OF IMAGES LIKE THIS ONE WHERE HE’S WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND HE’S WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND NO ONE KNOWS IT’S BARACK OBAMA. NO ONE KNOWS IT’S BARACK OBAMA. IT’S INTERESTING HE HAD THIS IT’S INTERESTING HE HAD THIS OBVIOUSLY HE HAD A NATURAL OBVIOUSLY HE HAD A NATURAL PROFILE BECAUSE OF THE SPEECH AT PROFILE BECAUSE OF THE SPEECH AT THE CONVENTION. THE CONVENTION. THE EARLY YEARS OF HIM AS A THE EARLY YEARS OF HIM AS A SENATOR, HE WAS NOT VERY FAR SENATOR, HE WAS NOT VERY FAR REMOVED FROM BEING A GUY THAT REMOVED FROM BEING A GUY THAT TOOK THE CAR TO THE CAR WASH. TOOK THE CAR TO THE CAR WASH.>>HE STILL HAD SCHOOL LOANS.>>HE STILL HAD SCHOOL LOANS. THIS PICTURE WAS ON A TRIP TO THIS PICTURE WAS ON A TRIP TO RUSSIA. RUSSIA. SO WE’RE, LIKE, THIS IS A SO WE’RE, LIKE, THIS IS A SIDEWALK IN RED SQUARE. SIDEWALK IN RED SQUARE.>>AMAZING.>>AMAZING.>>HE’S WALKING AROUND RED>>HE’S WALKING AROUND RED SQUARE AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON SQUARE AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON RECOGNIZED HIM. RECOGNIZED HIM. I WAS VERY CONSCIOUS OF THAT. I WAS VERY CONSCIOUS OF THAT. BECAUSE I KNEW, YOU KNOW, IF HE BECAUSE I KNEW, YOU KNOW, IF HE EVER DID BECOME PRESIDENT THAT EVER DID BECOME PRESIDENT THAT THIS SCENE WOULD NEVER BE REPEAT THIS SCENE WOULD NEVER BE REPEAT REPEATED. REPEATED. I DON’T THINK HE COULD GO TO RED I DON’T THINK HE COULD GO TO RED SQUARE NOW. SQUARE NOW.>>NO.>>NO. WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION OF HIM WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION OF HIM THOSE RLEARLY YEARS BEFORE HE’S THOSE RLEARLY YEARS BEFORE HE’S PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HIS GENERAL PERSONALITY AND HOW HIS GENERAL PERSONALITY AND HOW HE CARRIED HIMSELF? HE CARRIED HIMSELF?>>VERY LAID BACK.>>VERY LAID BACK. FOR A PHOTOJOURNALIST, WAS AN FOR A PHOTOJOURNALIST, WAS AN AMAZING SUBJECT IN THAT THE AMAZING SUBJECT IN THAT THE PRESENCE OF MY CAMERA, MY PRESENCE OF MY CAMERA, MY PRESENCE, TAKING PICTURES, DID PRESENCE, TAKING PICTURES, DID NOT BOTHER HIM IN THE LEAST. NOT BOTHER HIM IN THE LEAST. I MEAN, I USE WHAT I CALL A I MEAN, I USE WHAT I CALL A SMALL FOOTPRINT. SMALL FOOTPRINT. MEANING I’M NOT USING A LOUD MEANING I’M NOT USING A LOUD MOTOR DRIVE, AND I’M TRYING TO MOTOR DRIVE, AND I’M TRYING TO BE QUIET ABOUT HOW I WENT ABOUT BE QUIET ABOUT HOW I WENT ABOUT MY BUSINESS. MY BUSINESS. BUT HE WAS VERY UNUSUAL AND JUST BUT HE WAS VERY UNUSUAL AND JUST THE PRESENCE OF MY CAMERA NOT THE PRESENCE OF MY CAMERA NOT AFFECTING HIM ONE WAY OR THE AFFECTING HIM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. OTHER.>>DO YOU THINK THAT WAS>>DO YOU THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT THE KIND OF SOMETHING ABOUT THE KIND OF PERSON HE WAS? PERSON HE WAS?>>I THINK SO.>>I THINK SO.>>HOW SO?>>HOW SO?>>I THINK BEING BROUGHT UP IN>>I THINK BEING BROUGHT UP IN HAWAII. HAWAII. YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW? PEOPLE IN HAWAII ARE — HE WAS PEOPLE IN HAWAII ARE — HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII. BORN IN HAWAII. I DON’T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT. I DON’T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THAT. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ]>>I FORGOT WHERE WE ENDED UP ON>>I FORGOT WHERE WE ENDED UP ON THAT WHOLE THING. THAT WHOLE THING.>>HE’S A LAID BACK GUY.>>HE’S A LAID BACK GUY. HE STILL IS. HE STILL IS.>>YOU THEN STARTED — YOU WERE>>YOU THEN STARTED — YOU WERE PHOTOGRAPHING HIM FOR THE TRIP, PHOTOGRAPHING HIM FOR THE TRIP, AND THEN YOU WENT TO WORK AT THE AND THEN YOU WENT TO WORK AT THE WHITE HOUSE. WHITE HOUSE. SECOND WHITE HOUSE YOU’VE WORKED SECOND WHITE HOUSE YOU’VE WORKED IN, AND HE’S SWORN IN AMIDST IN, AND HE’S SWORN IN AMIDST JUST THE WORLD IS FALLING APART. JUST THE WORLD IS FALLING APART. AND YOU’RE THERE THROUGH ALL AND YOU’RE THERE THROUGH ALL THESE MOMENTS OF UNBELIEVABLE THESE MOMENTS OF UNBELIEVABLE HIGH STAKES AND STRESS. HIGH STAKES AND STRESS.>>ESPECIALLY THOSE FIRST FEW>>ESPECIALLY THOSE FIRST FEW YEARS, TRYING TO GET US OUT OF YEARS, TRYING TO GET US OUT OF WHAT WAS THE GREATEST RECESSION WHAT WAS THE GREATEST RECESSION SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION, AND SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION, AND HE’S WORKING EVERY WEEKEND. HE’S WORKING EVERY WEEKEND. I MEAN, I WAS THERE EVERY I MEAN, I WAS THERE EVERY SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. HE HAD MEETINGS WITH HIS HE HAD MEETINGS WITH HIS ECONOMIC TEAM, TRYING TO FIGURE ECONOMIC TEAM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LEVERS HE CAN PUSH TO OUT WHAT LEVERS HE CAN PUSH TO TRY TO RIGHT THE ECONOMY. TRY TO RIGHT THE ECONOMY. SO YEAH, IT WAS A VERY STRESSFUL SO YEAH, IT WAS A VERY STRESSFUL TIME. TIME.>>THIS IS MAYBE ONE OF THE>>THIS IS MAYBE ONE OF THE MOMENTS OF MAXIMUM STRESS. MOMENTS OF MAXIMUM STRESS. IT’S ALSO ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS IT’S ALSO ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS PHOTOGRAPHS NOT JUST YOU’VE PHOTOGRAPHS NOT JUST YOU’VE TAKEN BUT I THINK IN THE MODERN TAKEN BUT I THINK IN THE MODERN ERA, HONESTLY. ERA, HONESTLY. THIS IS THE NIGHT THAT THE BIN THIS IS THE NIGHT THAT THE BIN LADEN RAID HAPPENS. LADEN RAID HAPPENS. TELL US ABOUT WHAT THAT WAS LIKE TELL US ABOUT WHAT THAT WAS LIKE TO BE IN THAT ROOM. TO BE IN THAT ROOM.>>WELL, WE WERE IN THAT ROOM>>WELL, WE WERE IN THAT ROOM FOR 40 MINUTES. FOR 40 MINUTES. THEY WERE MONITORING THE RAID AS THEY WERE MONITORING THE RAID AS IT HAPPENED IN REALTIME. IT HAPPENED IN REALTIME. PEOPLE JAMMED INTO THIS LITTLE PEOPLE JAMMED INTO THIS LITTLE CONFERENCE ROOM RIGHT ACROSS CONFERENCE ROOM RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE MAIN SITUATION ROOM. FROM THE MAIN SITUATION ROOM. BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE COMMUNICATIONS LINK HAD BEEN SET COMMUNICATIONS LINK HAD BEEN SET UP. UP. THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT THE THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO BE THERE PRESIDENT WANTED TO BE THERE WHILE THE RAID WAS TAKING PLACE. WHILE THE RAID WAS TAKING PLACE. SO IT WAS SORT OF A LITTLE SO IT WAS SORT OF A LITTLE UNEXPECTED. UNEXPECTED. HE WALKED INTO THE ROOM. HE WALKED INTO THE ROOM. BRIGADIER GENERAL WEBB YOU SEE BRIGADIER GENERAL WEBB YOU SEE AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE SAW THE AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE SAW THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WALKED IN, STOOD UP TO GIVE UP WALKED IN, STOOD UP TO GIVE UP HIS CHAIR. HIS CHAIR. PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID TO HIM, YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID TO HIM, YOU STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE. STAY RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE. YOU’VE GOT WORK TO DO. YOU’VE GOT WORK TO DO. I’LL JUST PULL UP A CHAIR NEXT I’LL JUST PULL UP A CHAIR NEXT TO YOU. TO YOU. WHICH IS WHY HE’S SEATED WHERE WHICH IS WHY HE’S SEATED WHERE HE IS. HE IS. I’D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THE I’D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THE PEOPLE — YOU’VE GOT THE MOST PEOPLE — YOU’VE GOT THE MOST IMPORTANT POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE IMPORTANT POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF OUR EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT ALL IN THIS ROOM AT GOVERNMENT ALL IN THIS ROOM AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEY’RE THE SAME TIME, AND THEY’RE ESSENTIALLY POWERLESS. ESSENTIALLY POWERLESS. THERE’S NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO THERE’S NOTHING THEY CAN DO TO EFFECT THE OUTCOME OF WHAT EFFECT THE OUTCOME OF WHAT THEY’RE MONITORING. THEY’RE MONITORING. IT’S UP TO THOSE GUYS ON THE IT’S UP TO THOSE GUYS ON THE GROUND. GROUND. THEY MADE THEIR DECISION IN THE THEY MADE THEIR DECISION IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS BEFORE. DAYS AND WEEKS BEFORE. AND NOW IT’S UP TO THOSE GUYS ON AND NOW IT’S UP TO THOSE GUYS ON THE GROUND, AND ALL THEY CAN DO THE GROUND, AND ALL THEY CAN DO IS WATCH. IS WATCH.>>WHAT IS IT LIKE?>>WHAT IS IT LIKE? YOU HAD WORKED IN THE REAGAN YOU HAD WORKED IN THE REAGAN WHITE HOUSE AND OBVIOUSLY YOU’RE WHITE HOUSE AND OBVIOUSLY YOU’RE USED TO THIS. USED TO THIS. YOU WERE A PHOTO JOURNALIST, BUT YOU WERE A PHOTO JOURNALIST, BUT YOU’RE IN THAT ROOM TOO. YOU’RE IN THAT ROOM TOO.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN THAT>>ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN THAT ROOM, AND THEY ARE SOME OF THE ROOM, AND THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR YOU TO BE IN WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR YOU TO BE IN THAT ROOM? THAT ROOM? DID YOU ACCLIMATION YOURSELF SO DID YOU ACCLIMATION YOURSELF SO MUCH TO BEING IN THE SITUATIONS MUCH TO BEING IN THE SITUATIONS THAT THE STRESS DIDN’T PENETRATE THAT THE STRESS DIDN’T PENETRATE YOU? YOU?>>OH, NO.>>OH, NO. I WAS STRESSED. I WAS STRESSED. I WAS STRESSED. I WAS STRESSED. IT WAS A STRESSFUL SITUATION. IT WAS A STRESSFUL SITUATION. PART OF IT WAS THAT ROOM — PART OF IT WAS THAT ROOM — THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE JAMMED THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE JAMMED INTO THAT ROOM THAT I PICKED A INTO THAT ROOM THAT I PICKED A CORNER, AND I COULDN’T REALLY CORNER, AND I COULDN’T REALLY MOVE AT ALL. MOVE AT ALL. I CAN REMEMBER AT ONE POINT MY I CAN REMEMBER AT ONE POINT MY REAR END HIT A PRINTER AND THE REAR END HIT A PRINTER AND THE PRINTER STARTED PRINTING. PRINTER STARTED PRINTING. AND BOB GATES LOOKED AT ME AND AND BOB GATES LOOKED AT ME AND JUST KIND OF SMILED. JUST KIND OF SMILED.>>YOU — THESE ARE SORT OF SOME>>YOU — THESE ARE SORT OF SOME IMAGES THAT ARE THE KIND OF, IMAGES THAT ARE THE KIND OF, LIKE, THE MOST INTENSE ONES THAT LIKE, THE MOST INTENSE ONES THAT YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT THERE JUST YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT THERE JUST THE STRESS SORT OF AWARE. THE STRESS SORT OF AWARE. YOU CAN SEE IT BEARING DOWN ON YOU CAN SEE IT BEARING DOWN ON HIM, BUT THERE’S A LOT OF IMAGES HIM, BUT THERE’S A LOT OF IMAGES YOU CAPTURED THAT SHOW AN YOU CAPTURED THAT SHOW AN EXTREMELY HUMAN SIDE OF THE EXTREMELY HUMAN SIDE OF THE PRESIDENT AND ALSO THE HISTORIC PRESIDENT AND ALSO THE HISTORIC NATURE, OBVIOUSLY, OF THE FIRST NATURE, OBVIOUSLY, OF THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. BLACK PRESIDENT. THERE’S ONE PHOTO THAT AGAIN I THERE’S ONE PHOTO THAT AGAIN I THINK HAS AN ICONIC VIEW TO IT THINK HAS AN ICONIC VIEW TO IT NOW. NOW. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ] WHAT’S GOING ON IN THAT MOMENT? WHAT’S GOING ON IN THAT MOMENT?>>THIS IS A YOUNG JACOB>>THIS IS A YOUNG JACOB PHILADELPHIA. PHILADELPHIA. HIS DAD WORKED FOR THE FOREIGN HIS DAD WORKED FOR THE FOREIGN SERVICE, WAS LEAVING THE WHITE SERVICE, WAS LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE. HOUSE. PRESIDENT OBAMA INVITED THE PRESIDENT OBAMA INVITED THE FAMILY FOR A FAMILY SNAPSHOT. FAMILY FOR A FAMILY SNAPSHOT. I THINK JACOB’S MOM SAID JACOB I THINK JACOB’S MOM SAID JACOB HAS A PRESIDENT FOR YOU. HAS A PRESIDENT FOR YOU. IMAGINE BEING FIVE YEARS OLD IN IMAGINE BEING FIVE YEARS OLD IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND YOUR MOM THE OVAL OFFICE AND YOUR MOM JUST SAID YOU’RE GOING TO ASK JUST SAID YOU’RE GOING TO ASK THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES A QUESTION. STATES A QUESTION. IT WAS MORE LIKE MR. PRESIDENT, IT WAS MORE LIKE MR. PRESIDENT, MY FRIENDS SAY THAT MY HAIRCUT MY FRIENDS SAY THAT MY HAIRCUT IS JUST LIKE YOURS. IS JUST LIKE YOURS. AND PRESIDENT OBAMA BENT OVER AND PRESIDENT OBAMA BENT OVER AND SAID GO AHEAD AND TOUCH IT. AND SAID GO AHEAD AND TOUCH IT. AND I GOT ONE FRAME, AND IT WAS AND I GOT ONE FRAME, AND IT WAS OVER. OVER.>>THAT’S IT.>>THAT’S IT. THAT’S THE ONE. THAT’S THE ONE.>>ONE FRAME.>>ONE FRAME. AND I THINK THE PICTURE AND I THINK THE PICTURE RESONATES FOR A COUPLE REASONS. RESONATES FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE, YOU GOT A FIVE-YEAR-OLD ONE, YOU GOT A FIVE-YEAR-OLD AFRICAN AMERICAN KID TOUCHING AFRICAN AMERICAN KID TOUCHING THE HEAD OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE THE HEAD OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT LOOKS LIKE UNITED STATES THAT LOOKS LIKE HIM. HIM. BUT TWO, I THINK IT TELLS YOU BUT TWO, I THINK IT TELLS YOU SOMETHING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA. SOMETHING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA. THAT AT THE BEHEST OF A YOUNG THAT AT THE BEHEST OF A YOUNG KID, YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND BEND KID, YOU WOULD GO AHEAD AND BEND OVER AND LET THAT KID TOUCH YOUR OVER AND LET THAT KID TOUCH YOUR HEAD. HEAD. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ]>>I’M QUITE CERTAIN THAT>>I’M QUITE CERTAIN THAT WOULDN’T HAPPEN TODAY. WOULDN’T HAPPEN TODAY.>>NO, NO.>>NO, NO.>>ACTUALLY, I DON’T THINK WE>>ACTUALLY, I DON’T THINK WE WOULD WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. WOULD WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.>>LORD KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.>>LORD KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ]>>PART OF YOUR JOB IS BEING>>PART OF YOUR JOB IS BEING VERY CLOSE TO THIS INDIVIDUAL VERY CLOSE TO THIS INDIVIDUAL AND THIS COUPLE. AND THIS COUPLE. MICHELLE OBAMA HAS A GREAT MICHELLE OBAMA HAS A GREAT MEMOIR SHE WROTE. MEMOIR SHE WROTE. SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS, SHE TALKS ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS, HOW HARD IT WAS FOR HER AND HER HOW HARD IT WAS FOR HER AND HER FAMILY TO GO FROM PRIVATE FAMILY TO GO FROM PRIVATE CITIZENS TO HAVING THE ENTIRETY CITIZENS TO HAVING THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR LIFE BE PUBLIC, AND OF YOUR LIFE BE PUBLIC, AND YOU — THERE’S SOME AMAZING YOU — THERE’S SOME AMAZING PHOTOS YOU’VE TAKEN OF THE TWO PHOTOS YOU’VE TAKEN OF THE TWO OF THEM, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OF THEM, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY INTIMATE MOMENTS YOU’RE VERY INTIMATE MOMENTS YOU’RE THERE TO CAPTURE. THERE TO CAPTURE.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR. THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR. THIS WAS INAUGURATION NIGHT THIS WAS INAUGURATION NIGHT GOING FROM ONE INAUGURAL BALL TO GOING FROM ONE INAUGURAL BALL TO ANOTHER. ANOTHER. THEY’RE IN A FRIGHT ELEVATOR. THEY’RE IN A FRIGHT ELEVATOR. I KIND OF LIKE THIS PICTURE, I KIND OF LIKE THIS PICTURE, BECAUSE IT SHOWS WHAT YOU’RE BECAUSE IT SHOWS WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. TALKING ABOUT. THEY’RE SHARING THIS PRIVATE THEY’RE SHARING THIS PRIVATE MOMENT, BUT YOU GOT THE STAFF MOMENT, BUT YOU GOT THE STAFF AND SECRET SERVICE IN THE AND SECRET SERVICE IN THE BACKGROUND. BACKGROUND.>>I LIKE THE SIDE EYE FROM THE>>I LIKE THE SIDE EYE FROM THE GUY IN THE BACK. GUY IN THE BACK.>>BUT THAT IS THE NATURE OF>>BUT THAT IS THE NATURE OF BEING IN THAT POSITION. BEING IN THAT POSITION. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I’M AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I’M SURE — I MEAN, MICHELLE TALKS SURE — I MEAN, MICHELLE TALKS ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THIS. IT’S NOT EASY TO GET USED TO IT’S NOT EASY TO GET USED TO ALWAYS BEING IN THE PUBLIC EYE ALWAYS BEING IN THE PUBLIC EYE LIKE THAT. LIKE THAT. BUT SOMEHOW THEY MANAGED. BUT SOMEHOW THEY MANAGED.>>YOU CLEARLY CAME TO HAVE A>>YOU CLEARLY CAME TO HAVE A GREAT, DEEP AFFECTION, GREAT, DEEP AFFECTION, FRIENDSHIP, WITH PRESIDENT FRIENDSHIP, WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA. OBAMA. WHAT WAS THAT — THE DEVELOPMENT WHAT WAS THAT — THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP LIKE? OF THAT RELATIONSHIP LIKE? YOU’RE THERE ALL THE TIME YOU’RE THERE ALL THE TIME PLAYING THIS ROLE, AND THEN YOU PLAYING THIS ROLE, AND THEN YOU BECOME FRIENDS? BECOME FRIENDS?>>I THINK PART OF IT IS — IT’S>>I THINK PART OF IT IS — IT’S LIKE A PROFESSIONAL FRIENDSHIP LIKE A PROFESSIONAL FRIENDSHIP MOSTLY. MOSTLY. AND I SORT OF LIKE TO SAY TO AND I SORT OF LIKE TO SAY TO PEOPLE THAT I WAS THERE FOR ALL PEOPLE THAT I WAS THERE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT COMPARTMENTS OF THE DIFFERENT COMPARTMENTS OF HIS LIFE. HIS LIFE. FAMILY PICTURES, STRESSFUL FAMILY PICTURES, STRESSFUL MOMENTS IN THE SITUATION ROOM. MOMENTS IN THE SITUATION ROOM. ECONOMICS MEETINGS ON THE ECONOMICS MEETINGS ON THE WEEKEND. WEEKEND. AND SO I KNEW ALL THESE AND SO I KNEW ALL THESE EMOTIONS, BECAUSE I WAS IN THE EMOTIONS, BECAUSE I WAS IN THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED ALL THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED ALL THE TIME. TIME. AND I THINK THAT — BECAUSE OF AND I THINK THAT — BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE A BOND THAT’S THAT, WE HAVE A BOND THAT’S NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY, BECAUSE NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY, BECAUSE I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS EXPERIENCING FROM DAY TODAY. EXPERIENCING FROM DAY TODAY.>>IT’S SO INTERESTING.>>IT’S SO INTERESTING. USE SAY THAT, BECAUSE IT’S SUCH USE SAY THAT, BECAUSE IT’S SUCH A STRANGE JOB. A STRANGE JOB. THERE’S SO MUCH COME PARTPARTMEN THERE’S SO MUCH COME PARTPARTMEN COMPARTMENTIZING. COMPARTMENTIZING. YOU ALSO DID THIS, YOU WERE THE YOU ALSO DID THIS, YOU WERE THE DEPUTY IN REAGAN’S WHITE HOUSE. DEPUTY IN REAGAN’S WHITE HOUSE. AND YOU GOT TO SEE HIM UP CLOSE AND YOU GOT TO SEE HIM UP CLOSE AS WELL. AS WELL. AND FROM WHAT I’VE HEARD OF AND FROM WHAT I’VE HEARD OF INTERVIEWS OF YOU, YOU THINK INTERVIEWS OF YOU, YOU THINK HIGHLY OF HIM, OR THOUGHT HIGHLY HIGHLY OF HIM, OR THOUGHT HIGHLY OF THE PRESIDENT. OF THE PRESIDENT.>>I — POLICY-WISE, I WASN’T>>I — POLICY-WISE, I WASN’T NECESSARILY ALIGNED WITH HIM, NECESSARILY ALIGNED WITH HIM, BUT HE WAS A DECENT HUMAN BEING, BUT HE WAS A DECENT HUMAN BEING, AND TO ME, THAT’S WHAT MATTERED. AND TO ME, THAT’S WHAT MATTERED. I DON’T THINK — LIKE, I I DON’T THINK — LIKE, I COULDN’T WORK FOR TRUMP, BECAUSE COULDN’T WORK FOR TRUMP, BECAUSE I DON’T RESPECT HIM, AND I JUST I DON’T RESPECT HIM, AND I JUST DON’T THINK HE’S A DECENT HUMAN DON’T THINK HE’S A DECENT HUMAN BEING. BEING. [ APPLAUSE BUT THE REAGAN THAT I [ APPLAUSE BUT THE REAGAN THAT I SAW RESPECTED THE OFFICE OF THE SAW RESPECTED THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY AND RESPECTED OTHER PRESIDENCY AND RESPECTED OTHER PEOPLE. PEOPLE.>>I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT,>>I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT, AND THIS CLIP THAT CAME OUT OF AND THIS CLIP THAT CAME OUT OF REAGAN OF CALLING THESE AFRICAN REAGAN OF CALLING THESE AFRICAN DIPLOMATS IN THE U.N. MONKEYS. DIPLOMATS IN THE U.N. MONKEYS.>>VERY DISTURBING.>>VERY DISTURBING.>>A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HIM>>A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HIM EXPRESSED SURPRISE AND THEY WERE EXPRESSED SURPRISE AND THEY WERE UPSET. UPSET.>>IT WAS DURING THE NIXON>>IT WAS DURING THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION, SO IT WAS MANY ADMINISTRATION, SO IT WAS MANY YEARS BEFORE I KNEW HIM. YEARS BEFORE I KNEW HIM. I DIDN’T SEE THAT AT ALL WHEN I I DIDN’T SEE THAT AT ALL WHEN I WAS THERE. WAS THERE. I DID NOT KNOW REAGAN NEARLY AS I DID NOT KNOW REAGAN NEARLY AS WELL AS I KNEW PRESIDENT OBAMA, WELL AS I KNEW PRESIDENT OBAMA, BUT I WAS IN LOTS OF PRIVATE BUT I WAS IN LOTS OF PRIVATE MEETINGS, AND I NEVER SAW THAT MEETINGS, AND I NEVER SAW THAT COME OUT. COME OUT. SO THAT WAS — BUT IT WAS STILL SO THAT WAS — BUT IT WAS STILL DISTURBING TO HEAR. DISTURBING TO HEAR.>>THIS IS A PICTURE, HIS FINAL>>THIS IS A PICTURE, HIS FINAL PICTURE IS A PICTURE OF OUR PICTURE IS A PICTURE OF OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT CURRENT PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WITH PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WITH PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. BARACK OBAMA. 44 AND 45 TOGETHER. 44 AND 45 TOGETHER. AND IT’S I THINK SNAPPED — THIS AND IT’S I THINK SNAPPED — THIS IS DURING THEIR ONE MEETING IN IS DURING THEIR ONE MEETING IN THE TRANSITION. THE TRANSITION. IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT RIGHT?>>THIS IS ACTUALLY ON>>THIS IS ACTUALLY ON INAUGURATION DAY. INAUGURATION DAY. JANUARY 20TH, 2017. JANUARY 20TH, 2017. AND THEY WERE JUST ABOUT TO AND THEY WERE JUST ABOUT TO LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE TOGETHER LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE TOGETHER TO GET IN THE LIMBO AND DRIVE UP TO GET IN THE LIMBO AND DRIVE UP TO THE CAPITAL FOR THE TO THE CAPITAL FOR THE INAUGURATION, AND PRESIDENT INAUGURATION, AND PRESIDENT OBAMA PULLED THE INCOMING OBAMA PULLED THE INCOMING PRESIDENT ASIDE TO BRIEF HIM ON PRESIDENT ASIDE TO BRIEF HIM ON A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE. AND THERE’S NOT MUCH CONFIDENCE AND THERE’S NOT MUCH CONFIDENCE IN THE PERSON ON THE LEFT, I IN THE PERSON ON THE LEFT, I DON’T THINK. DON’T THINK.>>WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS AS>>WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS AS A SORT OF FINAL QUESTION. A SORT OF FINAL QUESTION. WE WATCHED YOU SORT OF DEVELOP WE WATCHED YOU SORT OF DEVELOP OVER THE COURSE OF THE TRUMP OVER THE COURSE OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THE BEGINNING ADMINISTRATION, THE BEGINNING THERE’S SUBTLE JABS. THERE’S SUBTLE JABS. YOU KNOW, THAT POSTING PHOTOS YOU KNOW, THAT POSTING PHOTOS AND SOMETHING IN THE NEWS. AND SOMETHING IN THE NEWS.>>I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE>>I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. TALKING ABOUT. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ]>>I MEAN, IT’S GOTTEN LESS DB I>>I MEAN, IT’S GOTTEN LESS DB I MEAN, IT’S CLEAR WHERE YOU STAND MEAN, IT’S CLEAR WHERE YOU STAND ON THIS PRESIDENT, AND YOU SEEM ON THIS PRESIDENT, AND YOU SEEM LIKE A FAIRLY KIND OF RETIRING LIKE A FAIRLY KIND OF RETIRING IN THE BACKGROUND SORT OF PERSON IN THE BACKGROUND SORT OF PERSON IN YOUR NATURE. IN YOUR NATURE. WHAT IS IT THAT HAS SORT OF WHAT IS IT THAT HAS SORT OF PUSHED YOU, NUDGED YOU TO BE PUSHED YOU, NUDGED YOU TO BE MORE OPEN AND PUBLIC ABOUT THAT? MORE OPEN AND PUBLIC ABOUT THAT?>>IT DIDN’T TAKE MUCH.>>IT DIDN’T TAKE MUCH. IT DIDN’T TAKE MUCH. IT DIDN’T TAKE MUCH. TO ME, WE HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT TO ME, WE HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT LIES TO US ALL THE TIME AND LIES TO US ALL THE TIME AND BULLIES OTHER PEOPLE. BULLIES OTHER PEOPLE. I THINK DISRESPECTS THE OFFICE I THINK DISRESPECTS THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY. OF THE PRESIDENCY. AND THAT’S WHAT BOTHERS ME THE AND THAT’S WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST. MOST. I MEAN, I’VE SAID THIS BEFORE I MEAN, I’VE SAID THIS BEFORE WHERE IF, YOU KNOW, JEB BUSH OR WHERE IF, YOU KNOW, JEB BUSH OR JUNE McCAIN OR JOHN KASICH OR JUNE McCAIN OR JOHN KASICH OR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN HAD BECOME ANOTHER REPUBLICAN HAD BECOME PRESIDENT, I WOULDN’T BE DOING PRESIDENT, I WOULDN’T BE DOING THIS. THIS. EVEN THOUGH I WOULD VEHEMENTLY EVEN THOUGH I WOULD VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THEIR DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THEIR POLICIES, I THINK ALL OF THEM POLICIES, I THINK ALL OF THEM WOULD HAVE RESPECTED THE OFFICE WOULD HAVE RESPECTED THE OFFICE AND WOULD RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE. AND WOULD RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ]>>PETE SOUZA, EVERYBODY.

100 thoughts to “Pete Souza On Throwing ‘Shade’ At Trump | All In | MSNBC”

  1. At least President trump wouldn't have to bow down to let the kids touch his hair!

    He could just take them off and hand it to him…

  2. I miss the days when the media didn't act so incredulous when they meet an honest American. Some of the questions Chris asks are totally asinine.

  3. i love that picture-the raid on Bin Ladin
    it shows Obama realized others knew more about the specifics than he did
    Trump would never do that

  4. Amazing interview with an amazing guy who was with arguably the best President in all of modern history in his most decisive moments, making profound choices and this guy captures images of the weight of the moments written all over Obama's face and body language.

    It makes me kinda sad that we have the President we have now, who doesn't work nearly as much, which is a good thing in alot of ways lol but he has no concept of the opportunity he has and doesn't fit in with the integrity of the office, and I just can't wait until it's finally over!

    Obama wasn't Perfect, of course, but at least he took the job seriously.

    And, we were able to be proud to be American, with Obama as our Representative on the world stage.

    Proud of what we had achieved by electing him, proud of who he was, as a person and as a president, and that convinces me every day, no matter how bad it gets, that we can do better than we are right now.

    We just have to MAKE it happen again!

    Impeachment, the 25th amendment, a Mueller report, with the spineless Republican sycophants in the majority in the Senate, Trump isn't going anywhere!

    Our ONLY hope, our first chance to make things right, our only, "salvation," is going to be on November 3rd. 2020.

    436 days. 2 hours, and 3 minutes to go until we have to come together with ONE voice and replace the malevolent presence infesting the White House once and for all.

  5. What bothers me the most is the terrorizing and abduction of children and babies at the border, as well as teens and adults. It is a Crime against Humanity.

  6. 🤡, Toddler, Take Ur Pick. Although Some Toddler More Coherent.They'll bhave after a few Scoldings Not this Guy.

  7. "He is from hawaii" 😂😂😂
    That was a great joke and true ofcourse.
    Hawaii has people i believe are only one mostly still respectfull.
    With aloha. And i see you meanings. Or your familie. .
    Those words.. its like i wish hawaii would be earth.
    In 3 weeks at 33 yr old i will die. After staying here on my funeral and loved ones after that i will travel. To hawaii. Egypt. Etc. I can go no need of 1 suitcase full meds. Alot of morfine reason i didnt dare to travel last 5 years or 12 outside EU.
    Plus crohn is dangerous in many countries not have food i can eat.

    Im scared to death of spiders.. australia everything is venemous but now i can go too. Soul cant be bitten.
    And to iceland.

    But i need to say goodbye of alot i love.
    I cant sit. Nor wear clothes. I wear operating jacket.
    Pain is high. Morfine higher. But luckely not high.
    I hope i make it 3 weeks.
    Without more suffering then now.
    More i cant handle.

    Xx

  8. The difference between CLASS & trash. Then & now.President Obama and 1st Lady Michelle were real people👍 not phony, and I will forever great full for how you pulled our country out of the "Deep Recession". For your tireless work to make America proud here @ home and overseas💜 You should both know that history will be kind to you & I thank you for you service to this country. GOD BLESS YOU BOTH AND YOUR GIRLS💜😘

  9. Anyone see the little boy in the red sqare photo. How he was looking at Obama, kids are so beautifully honest and curious.

  10. Trump is exposed now, finally.
    The G7 are NOT playing!
    Unimportant.
    Unintelligent.
    Irrelevant.
    …but still, potentially very damaging!

  11. 13:12 – Mr. Souza, if you read this, firstly, a grateful nation thanks you. Secondly, to your lead-in, "it didn't take much", I beg to differ. Your love of country and selfless service are much, indeed! Again, thank you for your brilliant work. It's an incredible legacy.

    You nailed the most important thing about past Presidents, as well as other Republicans who might've occupied the White House: Respect for the Office. The term I regularly use to describe the current occupant's corrosive effects is that he "debases" the Office of the President of the United States.

    Hopefully the day is fast approaching when we can view this administration as an aberrant episode in our country's history, as we look forward, our next President leading the Nation in healing its soul.

  12. Pete captured that young boy looking at Obama, because you don't see many people of color in Red Square. Little did the boy know he was looking at the future President. Wonderful Picture.

  13. You can see the love between Barack and Michelle but you may have missed what a gentleman he is by giving his wife his jacket.

  14. Trump wont respect the office of the Presidency because hes not a citizen of america. He was the son of an amoeba born at a nuclear test site of Russia.

  15. Racist Obama 1st Muslim POTUS still waiting for a "shoveling ready" job from him.
    oops I didn't have wait anymore thanks to Trump 😲 POTUS

  16. Peter Souza is one of the best photographers in the world. His Instagram page is most watched, comparable with Kim Kardashian West. Many of his award winning photos were taken simply with his smart phone. Check him out on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram. His book will be award winning as well

  17. IT IS SO DEPRESSING TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY AND HAVE TO CHECK TWITTER TO SEE IF OUR COUNTRY STILL EXISTS. PRESIDENT RONALD REGAN HAD DOCUMENTED DEMENTIA BUT STILL DID LESS DAMAGE THAN TRUMP

  18. Respecting the office of the Presidency. That's what makes me so angry. I can disagree with the policies but I always respected the office. Not anymore. tRump has made a mockery of the office. How long will it take to undo this madman's tenure?

  19. Just the photo of Obama sitting next to the general during the Bin Laden raid shows a major difference between Trump and Obama. Trump is completely unable to admit to himself that he doesn't always know best, that part of being a good leader is being able to recruit and give power to people who have an expertise and know more than the leader him/herself in positions of power. Trump actually believes that he knows more about how to defeat ISIS than the generals….by the way, what was is secret plan again? And when is Mexico paying for that wall? When does this trade war become quick and easy to win? I could go on for a while…

  20. Dear maga-hatters, evertrumpers, and card-carrying Republicans — witness what a real President looks like, says, comports himself, and sounds like…

    — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGQD_4iLjc0

    (Raw video: Obama on Senate rejecting gun measure 2013)

  21. Oddly MSNBC Communist Democrat propagandist cant mention any Obama accomplishments, because he was a p.o.s failure.

  22. This brought tears to my eyes. I miss the life we had before. I guess it’s true you never know how good you had it till it’s gone.

  23. There is a picture of President Obama standing at the bedside of a wounded solider that makes me cry every time I see it, but I wish they would have shown it here. The solider is completely covered and the room is dark except a soft light — possibly for the camera, and the solider has his arm reaching out to shake President Obama's hand. The caption said that Obama had leaned down and said something to the solider and let him know he was there. It always really bothered me how cruel the military was to Obama when he truly supported them, he loves this country and its people and they never treated him kindly. Anyway, the picture is one of the most touching pictures I've seen in my lifetime.

  24. Here's the thing, not a single person here has a bad word to say about Barack Obama, that's how far the state of the white house has got to in Donald Trump, and as we watch this disgusting human being make a mockery of America, please now take the time to look at his past, he truly is a con man who only care for himself and his immediate family.

  25. Rather you hate him or love him . Obama was a president you can be PROUD of. Unlike what we have today , trump is an embarrassment.

  26. Fox News jus got a segment idea for Drump and that ladies and gentlemen- its a must 👀 😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀

  27. Trump would never allow a little kid to touch his hair and if he did bend over, the top of his hair would flip off and he’d probably fart.

  28. So many great things to mention about President Obama. He is definitely a class act and clutch taking on the down turn of America and cleaning up all the crap from Bush….look at his hair from when he was elected lol. Trump, supporter dummies hating and blaming like always needs to know Trump will never get the respect or the intelligence of what President Obama had in his lifetime.

  29. Very good journalism when Chris Hayes made his follow-up question about Reagan's racism! 👏 I hate it when non-black people are friends with racists and when confronted about it, they say, "Well, he's always been nice to me!" 😑🙄🤔

  30. This segment is basically a Trump takedown piece by juxtaposition. The timing is impeccable. They've had this planned this for a loooong time. Biding time till Trump is most vulnerable.

  31. This book is a powerful troll on Trump's emptiness devoid of humanity.
    Pete Souza is a great photographer who captured Obama humanity. Great work Mr. Souza!
    .

  32. I hope there are plenty of copies of the book in all the public libraries across America. It's such an uplifting source of hope for our selves and our youth!
    I myself am definitely going to buy a copy as soon as I can, it will be a great comfort. As I am forced to continue to watch the nightmare continue!
    ☯️✌️🙋🇺🇸😂🤔🙏🤞

  33. Other than JFK, and FDR what other President was so missed after leaving office? We are so fallen, and left wanting with this current administration that just a pictures of the Obamas brings peace, and immediate melancholy. U.S. Citizens, We have to do better! #ResetTheVisionIn2020

  34. If the FBI stated in 2006 that Bin Laden had no connection to 911, why the raid? My theory; Raid was done to keep the American public in the weeds about who really attacked us on 911. Body (evidence) dumped at sea. You will never lean the truth if you don't read.

  35. President Obama was/is a class act but bottom line is that he's a politician and has to answer to his handlers.

  36. Such fond memories of a classy man, classy family, class act all around..just made the crap we have today all that much worse, if that's possible😒..thanks Chris..great interview..book sounds like a must read for me👍✌😊

  37. Thank you beyond words, Mr. Souza – you are a heaven-sent gift in this horrific times – I cry each time I see Obama and family – but you are so warm and wonderful – it really helps me and us all!

  38. Reagan's team sabotaged Carter's rescue unless the most highly trained seal team forgot to install sand filters for helicopters for a desert rescue. Carter was too Christian and refused to recruit jihadis and suicide bombers against the USSR. Reagan said fine and 9/11 followed just like Charlie Wilson's war said. Carter created more jobs per month than reagan and shrank the deficit (as a % of GDP) while reagan tripled the national debt. Gore had the debt paid in full by 2010 had SCOTUS allowed FL to vote. Carter fixed Nixon's mess. Clinton fixed Reagan's mess as soon as the fix has taken GOP steals an election as they cannot win by voting.

  39. All we'd see if tRump was being photographed daily, is seeing him stuffing his face with Big Mac Hamberlers and drinking coke, while watching Fox fake news….

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