Best Dolby Atmos Speakers: Klipsch Reference Series

Best Dolby Atmos Speakers: Klipsch Reference Series


– [Andru] I am in the middle
of setting up my home theater Dolby Atmos system, and
today I’m going to tell you about the Klipsch Reference Liner speakers that I’ve chosen to fill
out my Dolby Atmos setup. What’s going on, Tech
Squad? Andru Edwards here, editor-in-chief at GearLive.com. I’m here with my boy,
Techno Dad, what’s up? – What’s up, everybody —
Channa D, Techno Dad, here. – Techno Dad on YouTube.
– On YouTube, Techno Dad. – All about home theater,
surround sound… – That’s right, man. – So I brought you in
because I’m in the middle of setting up the ultimate home theater, which I will be revealing
very shortly, in a video. And today, we are talking
specifically about Dolby Atmos, and speakers, speaker configuration, what speakers you should buy, and basically how to make it all work to give you the next generation of home theater sound.
– Right. – Dolby Atmos has come to the home now. – [Techno Dad] Right.
– [Andru] Some people may not even realize what are
we even talking about. So what is Dolby Atmos,
and why is it something that people are wanting to
have in their homes now? – Basically what it is, is
like a three-dimensional sound. OK, it’s putting you where the actors are. If there’s helicopters flying over, you’ll hear a helicopter flying over you. – OK, above you. Literally above you.
– Yeah, exactly. Above you. There’s this part in “Rogue
Nation,” which was awesome… You know, he hits a motorcycle,
and the motorcycle goes ba-bum, ba-bum, ba-bum…
– Wow. – Over the car, and you hear it go ba-bum, ba-bum, ba-bum, behind you… Above you, behind you…
– Yup. – It’s pretty awesome. – It’s amazing. I love it. As I mentioned in the
open, Klipsch sent over a full Dolby Atmos surround
sound configuration. They sent over 7.2.4, so how many is that? – [Techno Dad] It’s 11
speakers and two subs. – So the subs aren’t speakers, see that’s the first thing I just learned. – Well I mean, they… – Subs are subs.
– Subs are subs. – Subs are subs, so 11
speakers and two subwoofers. And we configured that, and
put them all around the room to create a Dolby Atmos sound stage. – You know, you got sound all around you. – So when you take that versus, let’s say, a 7.1 surround sound system… – Sure, your sound stage is one one plane. Now with the sound stage
of 7.1.4, now it’s like, just picture a globe. – Right, and so 7.1 would be
seven speakers and one sub. – Correct.
– When you add the point-four that means you’re adding…
– Your high channels. – Speakers on the ceiling,
or that are bouncing. – Or the modules, yeah.
– That’s what we’ve done, we’re using speakers that are
pointed towards the ceiling, bouncing off, so we’ve got
four speakers doing that, plus, the other speakers all
around us, and the two subs. So one thing I didn’t
know, when you got here, you said you’ve been a big
fan of Klipsch, for how long? – [Techno Dad] Since the mid-’90s. – Since the mid-’90s, so,
that’s a long time ago. We’re not going to age ourselves, but that was a long time ago. – Right. No, it was a long time ago. I’ve been doing this home theater thing, and into this home theater
thing for a long time. And I started off with
some Klipsch as surrounds because I couldn’t afford their
big floor standing speakers. Now, luckily, I can, and I did. – What do you like about them, though? Why have you stuck by Klipsch
as a brand for this long? What is it about, I mean obviously if you’re choosing speakers
you’re choosing based on sound. – Correct.
– What is it about the sound that impresses you about them? – Well you know, I’m a musician. Every time I listen to them,
they have this kind of clarity and tone that’s just pleasing to me. – So big shout-out to
Klipsch for sending over these speakers, and these
are the Reference Line. What does that mean? When someone says “reference,”
that sounds pretty official. – [Techno Dad] It’s like
the end-all, be-all. Like, this is a reference-level sound. If you think about TVs, you
know, the real expensive TVs with reference-level picture, you know, and you get movies shot in 6K with a 4K digital intermediate, that’s going to be a
reference-level picture. – OK.
– So the reference is like the highest benchmark that you can have for whatever we’re talking about, whether it’s sound or vision. – So we’ve got the speakers here, and we’ve spread them around the room, and the first thing you
did when you came over, you pointed out a few things I did incorrectly.
– Sure. – Or maybe it’s not even incorrectly, but just without knowing
the proper way to do it, it can be fine-tined to
be even better, right? Let’s go through some of the steps, you buy your speakers, you’ve
got your great receiver, by the way, if you didn’t
see the receiver video, we talk about the receiver I chose: the Yamaha Aventage RX-3070, I’ll leave a link down below to that video and why we chose that one. You’ve got your receiver,
you’ve got your amp, if needed, – Sure.
– And you got your speakers. You plug all your speakers in… What do you need to do to properly lay out and get the best benefit,
the best bang for your buck with all the money you dropped on this configuration.
– Sure. So the basic configuration
is you have your left, center, and your
right, in front of you. That’s your front sound stage. – OK, which you told me by the way, those are the three
most important speakers out of everything.
– Yeah. That’s where the majority of your information is coming from. The center channel is
huge, and I see you’ve got that 440C from Klipsch.
– Yes I do, yes. – And that thing’s really awesome. It’s like a three-way speaker, because you just don’t have vocals coming out from the front. If you have gunfire
coming out, guess where, it’s coming from the center channel. – Right. – The outside speakers
actually handle mid-to-low, and then the inside
speakers handle the mids, and then the tweeter,
the horn loaded tweeter, handles the highs. And so that’s awesome to
have as your center channel, a three-way center channel.
– OK. – So that’s why that
Klipsch one is really good. The one thing I did
notice, which, it’s not… You just didn’t know.
– I didn’t know! – You didn’t know, and
I’ve seen some other videos on YouTube where people do the same thing. The surround sound speakers
are situated forward, orientated forward, instead of… – And when you say “surround,” you mean the surrounds that,
when you’re sitting down, are to the left and right of you. – Correct.
– So you’re saying, these speakers you’ve seen
people point towards the TV. – Right, but just angled in a little bit. – Which I did do. – Which is what he’s got right now. And so what I advise is
to point them directly at your listening, at your couch.
– Right. – So you’re in between two
speakers pointed at you. That way you’re going to
actually get the surround sound, otherwise if you put it forward, that would mean you
would be sitting forward, so in your case, if you were
sitting at your coffee table… – Right.
– It’d be fine. – Now the other thing I have
in here are the two subwoofers, and you wanted to talk a little bit about subwoofer placement. Now the two subs I have
here are the R-12SWi, and the cool thing about those
is that they’re wireless, which means you have the
freedom to place them anywhere that you want, which is nice, especially in home theater, because you may not be able to put them… – Straight up against the wall. – Exactly.
– Right in front. – Exactly, so what’s your
recommendation, though, for subwoofer placement,
like to get the best, again, best bang for your
buck, you don’t want to waste your money.
– Best bang for your buck. So the reason to go dual-subwoofer is that there’s a natural dip
in the low-end frequency, OK? And when you add that second subwoofer, it gets rid of that
dip, so you have a nice, round curve, right? And when you can’t place both
your subwoofers up front… – Is that the best? – Yes.
– It is the best, OK. So both subwoofers up front, facing you. – Yeah, up front, facing you. Now if you can’t do that, you can take one of those subwoofers and put it by your
couch, facing the screen. And then the other way of doing it, if you’ve got four walls… I see you don’t have four walls here. – Right, right. – So it’s kind of tough
without four walls, is you can go mid-way on
one of the adjacent walls, pointing toward the center of the room. – Now let’s talk about the Atmos portion. I mean, I guess it’s all
Atmos, but, you know, you need to have those height speakers, or something bouncing
to get the full effect. – Exactly.
– So, as I mentioned, we’ve got four modules here, two of them built into the rears and then two separate ones up front, all pointed towards the ceiling, and then coming down into the sound stage. How do you recommend people set that up, screw them into the ceiling? Again, Dolby says, hey, it’s better if you’re bouncing it off the ceiling. How would you go about setting that up? – I would put the integrated Atmos module with the floor standing
speaker in the front, and then when you’re setting up your surround sound speakers,
meaning the speakers to the left and right of your listening area, then you can kind of turn it a little bit to fine-tune the height
effects that are happening. – That makes sense, yeah. – And I know Dolby recommends
to do the ceiling bounce. And I believe that’s because, who wants to cut holes in their ceiling? You?
– No, I don’t. For ease of use, I guess, maybe
that’s why Dolby was like, hey just bounce it off the
ceiling, and you’re good, because then it’s just
a matter of buying it, plugging it in, and you’re done. – Yeah, yeah, buying it, plugging it in, aiming it a little bit,
and kind of fine-tuning it. Of course you’re going to have to listen to a couple of things, Dolby Atmos demos and stuff like that, to kind of hear exactly what’s going on. There’s a whole lot, I mean, “Mad Max: Fury Road” has
got a whole lot of Atmos. So what I like to call that
is like an Atmos-heavy movie. A lot of these new movies
coming out that say Dolby Atmos, lot of talking going on,
not so much Atmos going on. You know, little ambient sounds
coming from here and there. Usually action movies are going to have a lot more Atmos going on.
– OK. So what if you’re watching content that is not mixed in Dolby Atmos? The receiver that we chose,
the Yamaha Aventage 3070, has a mode, or a couple modes, actually, where it will up-mix,
it’ll up-mix in Dolby, it’ll do DTS… is it X?
– Yeah, DTS-X. – And there’s one other one as well. Do you turn those on when
you’re watching, or do you, would you rather just listen
to it the way it was composed. – I did try it both ways,
and I just leave it on. And what happens with the up-mix is, whatever’s going on in
the background music on your fronts and your surrounds is happening up on your Atmos modules. – [Andru] OK.
– Or your ceiling speakers. So it just kind of adds
that extra dimension of, you’re inside the movie,
you know, if it’s a dance, and there’s people talking around you, you’re going to hear people talking, you’re going to hear background music coming out of the Atmos. – If I’m paying for all the speakers… – Dude, you might as well! – I want them all working.
– Turn it on, turn it on and have a go, might as well. – Even if I put on a song, I don’t want just hear two-point — Just put it out of every speaker. I want every speaker…
– Working. – Going into overdrive.
– Of course. I mean I piecemealed mine together, OK? I already had a 5.1, it was
a Klipsch from 12 years ago. – OK.
– OK, still rocking… – Oh, by the way, so
speakers don’t go bad. Right?
– No. – Speakers aren’t like smartphones, where three years from now
it’s all slow and terrible. – No, what?
– You buy a good speaker and it’ll stay a good speaker as long as you don’t blow it out, right? – For sure, I mean speaker
technology hasn’t changed, it’s a speaker, that’s it. So if you do go out and
spend a whole bunch of money on speakers, know that they’re
going to last a long time. I had my last 5.1 Klipsch
setup, I sold to somebody else, and he’s going to use it in his 7.1 setup, and he’s going to enjoy it for
another ten or twelve years. They’re not going to be obsolete. I have a series on my channel, Techno Dad, it’s called “Home Theater Basics,” and in one of the videos I cover which speakers should you buy first. So if you are on a limited budget, or let’s say you have
$5-600, and instead of going for a little small home theater in a box, you want to get something
actually that’s good and is going to last a long time… – [Andru] You can build more later. – Yeah, you can start off
with your main speakers, your left and right channels, or you can get your center,
and left and rights, and then you’ll have
your front stage setup. And then you can think about the surrounds and the Atmos setup later.
– Right. – So, it’s up to you
guys what you want to do, especially with your
limited funds and whatnot. – Right, exactly, exactly.
So, there you have it. I think we’ve answered all the questions. If we didn’t, if there are more questions, drop them down below in the comments. And we’ll answer them down there. Big shout-out: Techno Dad,
for coming onto the channel. For dropping knowledge, for schooling me. (Techno Dad laughs) – Schooling the subscribers
out there as well. We appreciate it. – Hey man, thank yo so
much for having me, man. I get to check out the
city of Seattle too, while I’m up here, pretty awesome. – Yes, yes, thanks so
much for watching, guys. Drop a Like if you enjoyed it. Click or tap on my face
when you see it appear at the bottom of the screen. I’m Andru Edwards, and I’ll
catch you in the next video. (rocking electronic music)

100 thoughts to “Best Dolby Atmos Speakers: Klipsch Reference Series”

  1. Couldn’t you essentially achieve the same type of atmos effect with a 7.2 and use 4 cdt 5800 c ii in the ceiling? I say this in part because 99% of my movies don’t have atmos in the option. Spend more on a receiver and several more speakers for little purpose in the end.

  2. Wow, that's a lot of good speakers! I heard about some soundbars having Atmos, I need to check out more.of your videos to see if you already reviewed it!
    Nice collaboration my friend.

  3. First of all, thanks for your info but I have a question. I'm planning to upgrade my klipsch center speaker R-25C to a RP-450CA, my A/V Receiver is Atmos Ready (Marantz SR-6010) but I'm not planning to buy more dolby atmos speaker than the center one, so the question is: Will the RP-450CA work with my current set up ? I want to start preparing for the future.

  4. Hey guys thanks for the video. I have a question that I truly need help with. I am a Klipsch fan through and through. I currently have a 7.2 setup all being Klipsch except the receiver. My problem is my theater room is quite large 16’ x 26’. I have a very comfortable sectional sofa theater style. The problem is being a sectional it’s a solid piece of furniture that makes a curve being almost a “L” shape. Nevertheless I have to have a speaker behind it to even things out sound wise. The speaker is a Klipsch 28F so a fairly large speaker. I feel like the sound is trapped and it’s position really hurts the over all experience. I have racked my brain on what options (if any) do I have. I have it places on a 12” Klipsch sub to elevate some to release some of my muffled watts melting away into the back of the sectional. I need your help badly as a solution so I can for the first time and thousands of dollars enjoy my system. I’m you newest subscriber – thanks in advance and I eagerly wait for your response. Cheers.

  5. So does the main left & right as well as the surrounds in a 5.1 setup need to fire upwards toward the ceiling ?

  6. Sound engineers define "reference" as being a flat frequency response speaker with no extra sound processing or accentuating of any particular frequency while giving the clearest and most natural sound possible.

  7. Is there a considerable difference in the audio quality between the reference and reference premier speakers

  8. I picked up 2 r-28F's for $90 off FB marketplace, as well as a RC26 center and a 10" powered sub with the amp burnt up (needs repairied) So i just use a seperate amplifier to run the sub.

  9. While he is correct that those speakers need to be pointed in, I recommend putting your side surrounds on a lift of some sort as you need the speakers to be able to clear the person next to you. At that height it is ok if you only have one person but if you have two or three, the people on the ends are getting blasted from one side and the other side is blocked, especially given how extremely close they are to the couch. I believe the official recommendation is 2' above seated ear level (though I'd probably only do 1' given the upfiring speakers). Don't know why they don't design these 'sets' correctly for the side and rear surrounds a lot of the time.
    And good to hear that you are local PNW guy!

  10. Tge Floor Standing Speakers Those You Used For Dolby Atmos Does They Have Any Extra Connection Or They Are In Same?

  11. Does atmos has to be transmitted through HDMI Cable 2.0 or 2.1 or ARC or can it be transmitted by optic cable

  12. All of you need to stop buying this garbage and get a Bowers & Wilkins set up. They deliver true rock solid bass with crystal clear highs. I used to be a fan of Klipsch because of their copper drivers but they have no midrange driver which tells us a lot right off the bat. They get painful to listen to at high volumes.

  13. I noticed you got hardwood floors, does that effect your music/movie sounds vs carpet? I'm getting my carpet replace with hardwood and I'm not sure how much of a change it'll be when watching movies or listening to music on my HT setup.

  14. Hi, Nice video….
    I will have 7.2 setup with Klipsch so how many Atmos Speakers I need to create Atmos effect. Like Front two (RP-280FA or R-26FA) will be enough with other 4 Surround Sound (RP-250S)?

    Or I need to use more like use two RP-250S and two RP-140SA to make 4 Surround sound?

    Also If I use 7.2.4, can I use 7.2 Regular Reference Speakers and 4 in ceiling Atmos speakers?

    Which is in ceiling Klipsch Atmos Speakers?

  15. Great video, I have klipsch 3.1 Rp 160 and Rp 440c connected to Yamaha receiver Rxa-850 .. Which will be better as surround Rp-150 or Rp-240s ?

  16. I think I created Atmos 15 years ago. I have a 11.1 speaker system. I played around with different types of speakers including horn speaker like Klipch. I finally found Mirage speakers that blew them all away. They are omnidirectional speakers that radiate sound 360 degrees so the sound is unmatched! Just the front left side consists of 1 ceiling speaker, 1 ear level and 1 lower level speaker so when you add the other speakers on the left with the same array plus 1 ceiling center speaker and center bottom speaker..you get a giant 10 x 16 ft wall of sound! The rears have 5 speakers.

  17. Don't confuse people, these are not the best speakers for atmos. Klipsch is awesome for surround satellites but suck at fronts since they're too bright. The best config is a combination, klipsch for surround and down firing (yes, speakers pointing down instead of crappy ceiling bounce) But brands like Emotiva, Chane and Elac kick klipsch's butt at fronts.

  18. Greets from Netherlands! I like your video's. Plain, clear,simple and to the point.
    I do have the a3070 and reference II Klipsch speakers. It's a perfect combination and rocks. The subs i have however are SVS PB13 Ultra, they're much better then the Klipsch ones. For the yamaha it is better to put the heights up in the corners to benefit more from the build in DSP, atmos isn't sounding different this way but overall it's a better placement.

  19. This is a bit old but I have 15 foot ceilings how would you do that cause upfiring speakers do nothing the room is 5meter x 5 meter

  20. Horn loading ALWAYS affects the sound!
    NOT in a good way.
    PERIOD!!!
    Speak to yourself in a mirror
    NOW
    Cup your mouth with your hands,
    and speak into the mirror
    DIFFERENT sound!
    Yes it is.
    PERIOD!!!!

  21. Subwoofer placement is NOT always best up front on the same wall as the tv. Each room is different. Furnishings, drapes, etc, all affect sound. You need to update your knowledge. In most cases, the best place for a sub is as close to the seating position as possible. Fortunately, with the Klipsch wireless subs, they're easily moved around to find the best placement. Like he said folks, take care of your speakers and they'll last for years. The speakers I use for audio only, a Delcoid LM-1 sat/sub setup, are almost 40 yrs old and sound great.

  22. I mean, you guys only sort of know what you're talking about unless you're just trying to oversimplify. But, I caught several things that were not correct. I can tell you guys are just kind of DIYers, which is okay. Good video anyway and I encourage you to keep going and keep learning because you're good anchors on video.

  23. Funny how you all happy about it until you listen to music and find the horn tweeters are to harsh Try listen to kef and b&w and see. I own klipsch over 20yrs.

  24. I prefer my Totem Tribe IIIs. They hang on the wall for the L, R, centre and I've done ceiling speakers for the rears and surround. I think the "bouncing" effects of the Atmos content off the ceiling takes too long. Why not have the Atmos sound "shoot" down from the ceiling? You'd get a quicker response… My surround amp is by Anthem. I've had Yamaha, Onyko and Denon over the years and the Anthem is the cleanest most realistic sound I've had for under $3000. Don't buy your audio equipment at Best Buy. Find a high end audio dealer and take the time to audition your speakers -invest your money wisely…

  25. What's your opinion about the following as a start up system used for both the TV and just playing everyday music. I was tossing around this combination. A Yamaha TRS-7850 with the Klipsch R15M, RP-440- C and the R120SW. I'm looking for clarity so I can actually hear clearly what is being said on the 4K TV everyday satellite broadcast. It's a toss up between the R15M and the R51M. What is your opinion and why?. We decided to replace the R15M with R-26-FA and have no regrets.

  26. Hello,
    I am totally confused. When i look at the back side of all these 9.2 receivers I see speaker out for 7.2.4 setup.

    receivers I looked at: (advertised as 9.2)
    Denon AVR-X4400H
    Marantz SR6012
    Marantz SR7012
    Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A2070
    Onkyo TX-RZ920

    for example on this Denon X4400H it shows:
    Front: center, left and right (3)
    Surround middle: left, right (2)
    Surround back: left,right (2)
    Height -1: left,right (2)
    Height-2: left, right(2)
    subwoofer-preout: 2

    That makes it: 7.2.4, so why is it not mentioned in any review anywhere that it can be used like that??

  27. Reference is the best speaker klipsch is selling now for this class speaker,but they do not compare to other reference speakers at a higher price. They are made in china also. Klipsch at one time sold THX Ultra 2 speakers that are better,and they sold a super high end speaker called the palladium. The only really great speaker klipsch has left is there heritage brand.

  28. Hey guys ,thanks for sharing i have a question i have a Samsung 65inch curved tv but i want not to expensive speakers or soundbar which one should i get 😎

  29. I'm running the Pioneer Elite towers with the Elite SC-LX801. I have four of them around the box. Two front and two surround with dual subs and the elite center channel in a 20X15 room and it sounds great with all four towers set to large. The sound is truly immersive but as far as the Atmos speakers bouncing sound off the ceiling, I can't tell but the sound pressure in the room feels like a movie theater.

  30. Great video and very helpful tips…No one mentioned anything about the wires that connect to the speakers as I'm sure they also make certain differences. Are their any wires that are recommended for these types of speakers? Thanks!!

  31. Not a fan of klipsch. Horrible warranty and customer service. I had 2 subwoofer amps blow and both times it cost me $200. The second time I didn't pay I got a new sub. Garbage reliability.

  32. I see a ton of people saying ceiling bounce speakers are dumb… but it makes sense, by bouncing of the ceiling, the sound source would appear wider. You can see they deaden the left and right side of the speaker to concentrate the sound. Granted, to get 100% effect out of the speakers, heavy math and measurements is required.

  33. If I'm only gonna run 2 Atmos speakers. Which ports do I connect them to? The front heights or the rear heights?

  34. bic acoustech  pl-980 and PL-200II-Sub why people are not talking about these speakers they are neck and neck with klipsch if not better ?

  35. I use JBL Studio 1 series as my front soundstage so it's Studio 130's as my stereo speakers., 120c as my Centre and Control 1 Pro's as my Front Heights and a pair as my surround speakers. and a Klipsch 100SW as the subwoofer.. . in Dolby Atmos / DTS X configuration

  36. I did the slow updating "over years" with my speaker purchasing; however, I had quite a time matching speaker tone during that time. Twenty-three years ago I purchased the main speakers- Infinity Overture 2. They contained subs in each unit. I then got an NHT sub and later an additional HSU sub. Those were all excellent but then I had a journey through the center speaker purchasing three different ones until I ended up with an Infinity IL36C- a fantastic speaker that matched the others well. Now I am looking at upgrading the mains and was told to get rid of the NHT and the mains with sub for the smaller 16×14 area and have one sub ( I moved and now have a small theater area- used to have a large room ) and get Klipsch as they supposedly match the Infinity sound well. I am considering R625FA as I have a new ATMOS receiver. Thoughts?

  37. Well i dont agree about speakers. My 16-17 years old speakers was really good. And then yesterday I bought my self new speakers klipsch series. And yeah it is a difference from speakers from then until now. So no I don't agree fully.

  38. Subwoofer placement in a room does not fall under a general rule, especially if you're using two or more. In most cases, if you're adding a second sub, its suggested to put it on an adjacent wall, or opposing wall from the other sub. By locating them along the same plane as suggested here, they'll both be subject to the same cancellations of sound thus limiting their ability to properly pressurize the room.

  39. if you dont have 4 walls, a projector, and a screen, …….. you DONT have a theater. You have a living room with tv and surround sound.

  40. I have ref series cherry ,have had for years ,and ref sub 12" ,never watch movies but I listen to them for music . I have hooked up a Parasound 5 ch 250 watt per ,makes these speakers sing …bright ,great imaging … Oh yea a Denon amp as processor … Have a set of Polk audio ref series in mahogany book shelf speakers 5 ,Sub and still in box …downsizing …

  41. Also it depends on youre hearing. If you have problem with your hearing it will be different the sound you receveid.

  42. I've always been told that reference means….. you use these as a reference to what the artist is actually trying to portray whether it be music or movie. These speakers will sound exactly as the original recording had been mastered. Or it should replicate the original,I believe that's what is meant by reference. Great video, thanks for the "theater talk"

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